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	<title>Comments on: Atheist Billboard in Idaho</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/07/06/atheist-billboard-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-326729</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live further up north in Idaho and if there were a billboard like that here the people would find a way to tear it down. It&#039;s frightening how intolerant people are of others&#039; religions up here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live further up north in Idaho and if there were a billboard like that here the people would find a way to tear it down. It&#8217;s frightening how intolerant people are of others&#8217; religions up here.</p>
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		<title>By: Alekx</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/07/06/atheist-billboard-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-326690</link>
		<dc:creator>Alekx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this because it&#039;s simple,
but it gets a number of points across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this because it&#8217;s simple,<br />
but it gets a number of points across.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/07/06/atheist-billboard-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-326350</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see a billboard like this in my home state too!  Moscow is probably the only place in Idaho that this would&#039;ve worked without a big uproar.  Boise, although still fairly liberal, would have had more upset religious people simply because of the size of the city.  I live only a few miles out, so I&#039;m heading there with my camera to find it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see a billboard like this in my home state too!  Moscow is probably the only place in Idaho that this would&#8217;ve worked without a big uproar.  Boise, although still fairly liberal, would have had more upset religious people simply because of the size of the city.  I live only a few miles out, so I&#8217;m heading there with my camera to find it!</p>
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		<title>By: hoverFrog</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/07/06/atheist-billboard-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-326270</link>
		<dc:creator>hoverFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a better world and I don&#039;t pray.  Surely there is more to it than that though?  I hope for a follow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a better world and I don&#8217;t pray.  Surely there is more to it than that though?  I hope for a follow up.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonyMouse</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/07/06/atheist-billboard-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-326196</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonyMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOO!  Finally a billboard in my home state!  *rawk*  I know there are atheists around here somewhere, but I never seem to see them doing anything for the most part.  This is highly encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOO!  Finally a billboard in my home state!  *rawk*  I know there are atheists around here somewhere, but I never seem to see them doing anything for the most part.  This is highly encouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris D</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/07/06/atheist-billboard-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-326183</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! I live about 8 miles away from Moscow. I&#039;ll have to get a pic next time I head over there.

With respect to &quot;no Florida-like protects,&quot; Moscow is extremely liberal compared to most the rest of Northern Idaho so I&#039;m not surprised at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I live about 8 miles away from Moscow. I&#8217;ll have to get a pic next time I head over there.</p>
<p>With respect to &#8220;no Florida-like protects,&#8221; Moscow is extremely liberal compared to most the rest of Northern Idaho so I&#8217;m not surprised at all.</p>
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		<title>By: zoo</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/07/06/atheist-billboard-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-326175</link>
		<dc:creator>zoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So far, there is no Florida-like protest.&quot;

Unfortunately, that&#039;s just how Florida is.  It&#039;s often religious, but not always.  If you can be against something for a stupid reason or at least without having your facts straight, someone here is.

Again unfortunately, that&#039;s about all people elsewhere see so we have a special reputation for stupidity.  There really are smart people here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So far, there is no Florida-like protest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that&#8217;s just how Florida is.  It&#8217;s often religious, but not always.  If you can be against something for a stupid reason or at least without having your facts straight, someone here is.</p>
<p>Again unfortunately, that&#8217;s about all people elsewhere see so we have a special reputation for stupidity.  There really are smart people here!</p>
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		<title>By: David D.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David D.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I normally don&#039;t chip in with a criticism on these things, mostly because it&#039;s moot since the stuff is already on display, but this time I have what I consider a fair and constructive criticism (at least, I hope so) that ought to be taken into account on future atheism billboards and other displays.

Namely, the catchphrase &quot;prayer not required&quot; is okay, but it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;extremely&lt;/em&gt; minimal.  In fact, it almost seems as if the billboard is touting the notion that to improve the world, NOTHING is needed (i.e., not even prayer), which could not be further from the truth.

The real problem is that prayer **IS** nothing.  Therefore, the removal of prayer, while not unhelpful, still doesn&#039;t really add anything of substance.  It isn&#039;t enough to say &quot;prayer not required&quot;; in the context of the billboard query (&quot;Want a better world?&quot;), the answer should be one that actively promotes something (a &quot;positive claim,&quot; if you will), rather than just dismissing a functionless nothing.

In my opinion, a much better alternative to &quot;prayer not required&quot; would be something such as &quot;work beats prayer,&quot; or &quot;working beats praying.&quot;  Regardless of the wording, it should be something that not only rejects religion and/or its aspects (such as prayer), but also promotes something positively (science, rationality, reason, skepticism, something of that nature).

I hope this input of mine is not out of line; I strongly support the atheism billboard campaigns, and I am grateful for those people who conduct them.


~David D.G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I normally don&#8217;t chip in with a criticism on these things, mostly because it&#8217;s moot since the stuff is already on display, but this time I have what I consider a fair and constructive criticism (at least, I hope so) that ought to be taken into account on future atheism billboards and other displays.</p>
<p>Namely, the catchphrase &#8220;prayer not required&#8221; is okay, but it&#8217;s <em>extremely</em> minimal.  In fact, it almost seems as if the billboard is touting the notion that to improve the world, NOTHING is needed (i.e., not even prayer), which could not be further from the truth.</p>
<p>The real problem is that prayer **IS** nothing.  Therefore, the removal of prayer, while not unhelpful, still doesn&#8217;t really add anything of substance.  It isn&#8217;t enough to say &#8220;prayer not required&#8221;; in the context of the billboard query (&#8221;Want a better world?&#8221;), the answer should be one that actively promotes something (a &#8220;positive claim,&#8221; if you will), rather than just dismissing a functionless nothing.</p>
<p>In my opinion, a much better alternative to &#8220;prayer not required&#8221; would be something such as &#8220;work beats prayer,&#8221; or &#8220;working beats praying.&#8221;  Regardless of the wording, it should be something that not only rejects religion and/or its aspects (such as prayer), but also promotes something positively (science, rationality, reason, skepticism, something of that nature).</p>
<p>I hope this input of mine is not out of line; I strongly support the atheism billboard campaigns, and I am grateful for those people who conduct them.</p>
<p>~David D.G.</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Keener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gustavo Keener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad they got this in Idaho, of all places.  Amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad they got this in Idaho, of all places.  Amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: Pepe Silvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pepe Silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought they only worshiped potatoes. They keep their many eyes upon us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
We don&#039;t worship potatoes, we just make really good ones. In regards to the billboard, we&#039;ve actually had one since March:
http://www.fox12idaho.com/global/story.asp?S=9969621
But it&#039;s nice to see another one popping up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thought they only worshiped potatoes. They keep their many eyes upon us.</p></blockquote>
<p>We don&#8217;t worship potatoes, we just make really good ones. In regards to the billboard, we&#8217;ve actually had one since March:<br />
<a href="http://www.fox12idaho.com/global/story.asp?S=9969621" rel="nofollow">http://www.fox12idaho.com/global/story.asp?S=9969621</a><br />
But it&#8217;s nice to see another one popping up.</p>
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