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		<title>By: Mark C.</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/06/04/this-is-filthy-language/comment-page-1/#comment-316549</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sucks, pissed, screwed, hell, damn&quot;

I grew up in an environment where &quot;pissed&quot; would always be a cuss word, &quot;hell&quot; would be if uttered in a way not actually talking about the (mythical) location, and &quot;damn&quot; would pretty much also always be considered a cuss word (except possibly when saying something like &quot;he&#039;ll be damned to hell&quot;, though &quot;condemned&quot; would always be acceptable). &quot;Sucks&quot; and &quot;screwed&quot; would almost attain the same status for some people, such as my paternal grandmother.

On a forum I go to, I mentioned that a particular video game has only one instance of a cuss word (&quot;damn&quot;), when the series has historically not had any and been kid-friendly, and that I thought it was put in there not for good reason, but simply to make it appear to be for more mature audiences (and for shock value). Someone came back at me by being shocked that I consider &quot;damn&quot; a bad word. Well, around where I live, it is. But as a USian (Canadians and Mexicans are American, too, after all), I don&#039;t see any problem with &quot;bloody&quot;... a word that the British apparently regard as a &quot;bad word&quot;.

Perhaps a good indicator of what is or isn&#039;t a &quot;bad word&quot; would be to go see what isn&#039;t allowed to be said in elementary schools (not including words like &quot;sex&quot;, which adults don&#039;t want children to know about for other reasons entirely).

Words are just sounds used to communicate. None are bad or good intrinsically, but only appropriate and inappropriate in context (social and otherwise). I have no problem using these words, but I always tend to use what is acceptable in whatever social context I&#039;m in. I&#039;m not going to use any variant of the word &quot;fuck&quot; around my grandmother, for instance, or around my nine-year-old sister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sucks, pissed, screwed, hell, damn&#8221;</p>
<p>I grew up in an environment where &#8220;pissed&#8221; would always be a cuss word, &#8220;hell&#8221; would be if uttered in a way not actually talking about the (mythical) location, and &#8220;damn&#8221; would pretty much also always be considered a cuss word (except possibly when saying something like &#8220;he&#8217;ll be damned to hell&#8221;, though &#8220;condemned&#8221; would always be acceptable). &#8220;Sucks&#8221; and &#8220;screwed&#8221; would almost attain the same status for some people, such as my paternal grandmother.</p>
<p>On a forum I go to, I mentioned that a particular video game has only one instance of a cuss word (&#8221;damn&#8221;), when the series has historically not had any and been kid-friendly, and that I thought it was put in there not for good reason, but simply to make it appear to be for more mature audiences (and for shock value). Someone came back at me by being shocked that I consider &#8220;damn&#8221; a bad word. Well, around where I live, it is. But as a USian (Canadians and Mexicans are American, too, after all), I don&#8217;t see any problem with &#8220;bloody&#8221;&#8230; a word that the British apparently regard as a &#8220;bad word&#8221;.</p>
<p>Perhaps a good indicator of what is or isn&#8217;t a &#8220;bad word&#8221; would be to go see what isn&#8217;t allowed to be said in elementary schools (not including words like &#8220;sex&#8221;, which adults don&#8217;t want children to know about for other reasons entirely).</p>
<p>Words are just sounds used to communicate. None are bad or good intrinsically, but only appropriate and inappropriate in context (social and otherwise). I have no problem using these words, but I always tend to use what is acceptable in whatever social context I&#8217;m in. I&#8217;m not going to use any variant of the word &#8220;fuck&#8221; around my grandmother, for instance, or around my nine-year-old sister.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Weyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Weyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I guess Paul was wrong when he said, 

&quot;I consider my righteousness skubalon, which means, basically, shit. Phil. 3:8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I guess Paul was wrong when he said, </p>
<p>&#8220;I consider my righteousness skubalon, which means, basically, shit. Phil. 3:8</p>
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		<title>By: CybrgnX</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/06/04/this-is-filthy-language/comment-page-1/#comment-316411</link>
		<dc:creator>CybrgnX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that it is just a form of shortcut to use the word swearing in such a casual manner.  But this is the problem with debates because very one mis uses the words.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for an athiest to blaspheme, swear, or curse as these do not exist.  And fucking profanity is confused with the word fuck because of sloppy usage by sloppy minds.  Profane is nothing more then talking about ordinary things, and profanity is talking about ordinary things  in church.  Everything else, cunt, fuck, shit, etc is nothing more then &#039;I don&#039;t like that speech&#039; crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that it is just a form of shortcut to use the word swearing in such a casual manner.  But this is the problem with debates because very one mis uses the words.<br />
It is IMPOSSIBLE for an athiest to blaspheme, swear, or curse as these do not exist.  And fucking profanity is confused with the word fuck because of sloppy usage by sloppy minds.  Profane is nothing more then talking about ordinary things, and profanity is talking about ordinary things  in church.  Everything else, cunt, fuck, shit, etc is nothing more then &#8216;I don&#8217;t like that speech&#8217; crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/06/04/this-is-filthy-language/comment-page-1/#comment-316387</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;fucking point of fucking using the fucking fuck word for &lt;b&gt;fucks sake&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;/blockquote&gt; Fuck! You missed a fucking apostrophe. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>fucking point of fucking using the fucking fuck word for <b>fucks sake</b>?</p></blockquote>
<p> Fuck! You missed a fucking apostrophe. <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hoverFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoverFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChesterBogus I think you&#039;ve missed the point.  When the same words are overused as fluff and filler they lose impact and just become noise.  A well placed &quot;fuck it&quot; or &quot;screw you&quot; can add wallop to a phrase but if every other fucking word is fucking fuck then what&#039;s the fucking point of fucking using the fucking fuck word for fucks sake?  It becomes boring repetitive drivel and loses any vehemence or power that the word holds in itself.

If a word can be said to have power that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChesterBogus I think you&#8217;ve missed the point.  When the same words are overused as fluff and filler they lose impact and just become noise.  A well placed &#8220;fuck it&#8221; or &#8220;screw you&#8221; can add wallop to a phrase but if every other fucking word is fucking fuck then what&#8217;s the fucking point of fucking using the fucking fuck word for fucks sake?  It becomes boring repetitive drivel and loses any vehemence or power that the word holds in itself.</p>
<p>If a word can be said to have power that is.</p>
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		<title>By: ChesterBogus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChesterBogus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that annoys me with people saying, &quot;Oh, we have enough words in English to...&quot; Or, &quot;Using swear words limits your vocabulary.

Whatever. The problem with this logic is that, if you stop swearing, you limit your vocabulary. Not the other way around. If I say, &quot;I&#039;m not going to say &#039;fuck&#039;,&quot; then I&#039;ve just limited my vocabulary by one word.

You might say that there are plenty of words that are appropriate to the situation - yeah. Swear words are the appropriate words for when you are angry, when you want to emphasize something, when you want to...

There is no reason whatsoever to limit your vocabulary and remove swearwords from your daily usage. What word is better than, &quot;Aw, shit,&quot; when something goes wrong? How could you possibly suggest that there is another word that fits the category &quot;exclamation for bad events&quot;? 

Your car is broken: &quot;Zounds!&quot;

Honestly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that annoys me with people saying, &#8220;Oh, we have enough words in English to&#8230;&#8221; Or, &#8220;Using swear words limits your vocabulary.</p>
<p>Whatever. The problem with this logic is that, if you stop swearing, you limit your vocabulary. Not the other way around. If I say, &#8220;I&#8217;m not going to say &#8216;fuck&#8217;,&#8221; then I&#8217;ve just limited my vocabulary by one word.</p>
<p>You might say that there are plenty of words that are appropriate to the situation &#8211; yeah. Swear words are the appropriate words for when you are angry, when you want to emphasize something, when you want to&#8230;</p>
<p>There is no reason whatsoever to limit your vocabulary and remove swearwords from your daily usage. What word is better than, &#8220;Aw, shit,&#8221; when something goes wrong? How could you possibly suggest that there is another word that fits the category &#8220;exclamation for bad events&#8221;? </p>
<p>Your car is broken: &#8220;Zounds!&#8221;</p>
<p>Honestly.</p>
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		<title>By: mattincinci</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattincinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danger of using offensive language to communicate the gospel? LOL ok its EVIL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danger of using offensive language to communicate the gospel? LOL ok its EVIL</p>
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		<title>By: hoverFrog</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/06/04/this-is-filthy-language/comment-page-1/#comment-316303</link>
		<dc:creator>hoverFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dislike swearing not because it is swearing but because so many people use words like &quot;fucking&quot; and &quot;Jesus&quot; as placeholder words.  We have a plethora of appropriate terms for almost any situation and I despise the constant use of the same few words.  It portrays a singular lack of vocabulary.  

That said the occassional use of expletives for emphasis is a magnificent use of language.  My chief objection is the ubiquity of certain words when there are viable and more descriptive words available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dislike swearing not because it is swearing but because so many people use words like &#8220;fucking&#8221; and &#8220;Jesus&#8221; as placeholder words.  We have a plethora of appropriate terms for almost any situation and I despise the constant use of the same few words.  It portrays a singular lack of vocabulary.  </p>
<p>That said the occassional use of expletives for emphasis is a magnificent use of language.  My chief objection is the ubiquity of certain words when there are viable and more descriptive words available.</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only belief stupider than the belief that certain words are &#039;filthy&#039; and should therefor be censored is the belief that words like &#039;screw&#039;, &#039;flip&#039;, &#039;frig&#039;, &#039;frak&#039;, etc, are different from &#039;fuck&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only belief stupider than the belief that certain words are &#8216;filthy&#8217; and should therefor be censored is the belief that words like &#8217;screw&#8217;, &#8216;flip&#8217;, &#8216;frig&#8217;, &#8216;frak&#8217;, etc, are different from &#8216;fuck&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: WICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>WICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would disagree that in order to communicate effectively to a culture that uses curse words, you must curse yourself.

I think bad language is exactly that...bad language.  There are enough words in any language to effectively communicate.

Especially as a parent of children who are beginning to repeat most words/phrases they hear -  I won&#039;t condemn people for using them, but I will greatly appreciate and support those who don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would disagree that in order to communicate effectively to a culture that uses curse words, you must curse yourself.</p>
<p>I think bad language is exactly that&#8230;bad language.  There are enough words in any language to effectively communicate.</p>
<p>Especially as a parent of children who are beginning to repeat most words/phrases they hear &#8211;  I won&#8217;t condemn people for using them, but I will greatly appreciate and support those who don&#8217;t.</p>
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