Comments on: Church to Hungry Homeless: Pray First, Eat Later http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/ Atheism with Positivity Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:41 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Debra http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-257792 Debra Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:25:59 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-257792 Robin requested use of the kitchen and fellowship hall facilities for two events: her annual memorial service and the Christmas party. The church agreed to this. A time was set, she ordered the food with the caterer (who donated everything for 125 people), took care of all the logistics with food and thousands of dollars in gifts, her staff shoveled the sidewalks (after that icy snowstorm), cleaned and set up the room, and then was handed an "itinerary" at the last minute as to how the program was going to be run, even though everything had been planned. The minister wanted to go first, so much so that he made the servers drop their utensils. Plates of food were discarded as some people had already been served. Robin is not combative; she does stick up for those utilizing tax-paid programs, so that taxpayers get some bang for their bucks, and requests that her clients be treated with respect and not be used as pawns by the many poverty-industries that the taxpayers pay for. Those who ever took the time to stop by FAITH Foundation supported her, in spirit and financially. Those that didn't, speculate on what she does and they are her biggest critics. There is more to this story, which is likely connected to her eviction from the State Street office, that the city supported for years. Robin requested use of the kitchen and fellowship hall facilities for two events: her annual memorial service and the Christmas party. The church agreed to this. A time was set, she ordered the food with the caterer (who donated everything for 125 people), took care of all the logistics with food and thousands of dollars in gifts, her staff shoveled the sidewalks (after that icy snowstorm), cleaned and set up the room, and then was handed an “itinerary” at the last minute as to how the program was going to be run, even though everything had been planned.

The minister wanted to go first, so much so that he made the servers drop their utensils. Plates of food were discarded as some people had already been served.

Robin is not combative; she does stick up for those utilizing tax-paid programs, so that taxpayers get some bang for their bucks, and requests that her clients be treated with respect and not be used as pawns by the many poverty-industries that the taxpayers pay for.

Those who ever took the time to stop by FAITH Foundation supported her, in spirit and financially. Those that didn’t, speculate on what she does and they are her biggest critics.

There is more to this story, which is likely connected to her eviction from the State Street office, that the city supported for years.

]]> By: Kat http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256449 Kat Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:20:28 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256449 Robin Reilly may be a bit combative, her group gets tossed out of buildings all of the time, but what the so-called man of god did, was just sick and sad. This, sadly, happens at most churches that claim to want to help the homeless and needy. They get them in on the promise of a hot meal and a warm bed, and then they force them to listen to a sermon before they can eat, and many of them are truly starving. That meal may be their only decent meal in weeks, they are counting on it for their very survival, yet they have to sit and watch it get cold so that the preacher man can do what he thinks Jesus would have him him do. According to scripture, Jesus didn't make people listen to him talk about his father before he gave them fishes and loaves. It's just sick. Good luck to that church getting donations in the upcoming year. Robin Reilly may be a bit combative, her group gets tossed out of buildings all of the time, but what the so-called man of god did, was just sick and sad.

This, sadly, happens at most churches that claim to want to help the homeless and needy.
They get them in on the promise of a hot meal and a warm bed, and then they force them to listen to a sermon before they can eat, and many of them are truly starving. That meal may be their only decent meal in weeks, they are counting on it for their very survival, yet they have to sit and watch it get cold so that the preacher man can do what he thinks Jesus would have him him do.

According to scripture, Jesus didn’t make people listen to him talk about his father before he gave them fishes and loaves.

It’s just sick. Good luck to that church getting donations in the upcoming year.

]]> By: writerdd http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256431 writerdd Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:40:20 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256431 That's why I am not fond of religious charities. There's always an ulterior motive. That’s why I am not fond of religious charities. There’s always an ulterior motive.

]]> By: Aaron http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256427 Aaron Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:20:19 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256427 I'd say they were acting very Christian. After all, the highest priority for Christians is worshipping Jesus. Spiritual needs are more important than physical needs. So, they were actually following their doctrines to the T when they denied food until after prayer. I’d say they were acting very Christian. After all, the highest priority for Christians is worshipping Jesus. Spiritual needs are more important than physical needs. So, they were actually following their doctrines to the T when they denied food until after prayer.

]]> By: Lily http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256410 Lily Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:45:39 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256410 Using the promise of food to get hungry people to go to church and pray is sadly not at all uncommon. It seems that many missionary organizations base their work on it. Using the promise of food to get hungry people to go to church and pray is sadly not at all uncommon. It seems that many missionary organizations base their work on it.

]]> By: benjdm http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256395 benjdm Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:56:39 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256395 Stop using "Christian" as a synonym for good behavior. It's bullshit, on par with using "Godless" to describe bad behavior. Stop using “Christian” as a synonym for good behavior. It’s bullshit, on par with using “Godless” to describe bad behavior.

]]> By: Stephen http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256364 Stephen Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:29:43 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256364 Well, as Christ said -- the poor will always be around, so church -- the "body of Christ" -- comes first. (Matthew 26:11) Well, as Christ said — the poor will always be around, so church — the “body of Christ” — comes first. (Matthew 26:11)

]]> By: Dan http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256363 Dan Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:29:28 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256363 "That is *totally* what Jesus would’ve done." LOL! Perfect sarcasm, Hemant! I can just picture Rev. Ippolito huffing and puffing in anger, trying to preach to a group who is having trouble paying attention because... oh, I don't know... THEY'RE STARVING?! Kudos to Robin and her organization. “That is *totally* what Jesus would’ve done.”

LOL! Perfect sarcasm, Hemant!

I can just picture Rev. Ippolito huffing and puffing in anger, trying to preach to a group who is having trouble paying attention because… oh, I don’t know… THEY’RE STARVING?!

Kudos to Robin and her organization.

]]> By: JimboB http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256353 JimboB Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:49:25 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256353 Kudos to Robin Reilley! Don't worry about preaching; just feed the homeless! That's certainly more effective Suggested prayer for next year: "Dear God, we paid for all this stuff ourselves, so thanks for nothing.” - Bart Simpson Kudos to Robin Reilley! Don’t worry about preaching; just feed the homeless! That’s certainly more effective

Suggested prayer for next year:

“Dear God, we paid for all this stuff ourselves, so thanks for nothing.” – Bart Simpson

]]> By: TheDeadEye http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/comment-page-1/#comment-256351 TheDeadEye Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:44:51 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256351 <blockquote>The foundation has had trouble finding headquarters. It’s been kicked out of buildings before</blockquote> Not to defend the church for making homeless people listen to inane prattle before getting some food, but something tells me this Robin gal is a bit too combative for the likes of the average male pastor.

The foundation has had trouble finding headquarters. It’s been kicked out of buildings before

Not to defend the church for making homeless people listen to inane prattle before getting some food, but something tells me this Robin gal is a bit too combative for the likes of the average male pastor.

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