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		<title>By: Tao Jones</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/03/how-do-jesus-crackers-get-made/comment-page-1/#comment-249678</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>postsimian: There is nothing funny about ignorance.  We&#039;re supposed to be the smart ones, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>postsimian: There is nothing funny about ignorance.  We&#8217;re supposed to be the smart ones, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/03/how-do-jesus-crackers-get-made/comment-page-1/#comment-249670</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the greatest proof that transubstantiation is a crock is that these people claim to absolutely belive they are ingesting Jesus Christ, their &lt;em&gt;god&lt;/em&gt;,  and that this god, this deity, this wellspring of all goodness, is now physically present in their own bodies, is becoming physically one with themselves, and yet they can walk out the church door minutes later and be complete bastards to other human beings.  They can ingest their Lord and Savior, the god they worship and fear, etc., and fifteen minutes later trash their neighbor, or make racist comments, or go home and cheat someone out of money, or beat their kids, or whatever. 

To me, that&#039;s just proof that this whole god thing is utter nonsense and that the Catholic notion of transubstantiation and the bread and wine is merely a PR move on their part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the greatest proof that transubstantiation is a crock is that these people claim to absolutely belive they are ingesting Jesus Christ, their <em>god</em>,  and that this god, this deity, this wellspring of all goodness, is now physically present in their own bodies, is becoming physically one with themselves, and yet they can walk out the church door minutes later and be complete bastards to other human beings.  They can ingest their Lord and Savior, the god they worship and fear, etc., and fifteen minutes later trash their neighbor, or make racist comments, or go home and cheat someone out of money, or beat their kids, or whatever. </p>
<p>To me, that&#8217;s just proof that this whole god thing is utter nonsense and that the Catholic notion of transubstantiation and the bread and wine is merely a PR move on their part.</p>
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		<title>By: postsimian</title>
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		<dc:creator>postsimian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tao Jones:  your name suggests you had a sense of humor at one point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao Jones:  your name suggests you had a sense of humor at one point.</p>
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		<title>By: JJGorndt</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJGorndt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might just be that I work in a food processing plant, but that place didn&#039;t look very hygienic at all. No hairnets, no gloves, people wearing jewelry... I guess they&#039;re trusting God to keep their food safe, and not Good Manufacturing Processes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might just be that I work in a food processing plant, but that place didn&#8217;t look very hygienic at all. No hairnets, no gloves, people wearing jewelry&#8230; I guess they&#8217;re trusting God to keep their food safe, and not Good Manufacturing Processes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tao Jones</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/03/how-do-jesus-crackers-get-made/comment-page-1/#comment-249658</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d like to see a life size jesus statue made of blessed communion wafers, but i suspect i’d be very disappointed when it didn’t lurch into life like some demented holy zombie.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;d be disappointed?  Planning on starting a new sect of Christianity?  Because NO ONE believes this is what would happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’d like to see a life size jesus statue made of blessed communion wafers, but i suspect i’d be very disappointed when it didn’t lurch into life like some demented holy zombie.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;d be disappointed?  Planning on starting a new sect of Christianity?  Because NO ONE believes this is what would happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Catholics don&#039;t believe in transubstantiation, although they do indeed understand the theory.  They just don&#039;t buy it and tend to fall into the consubstantiation camp in which the bread is still the bread and Christ is spiritually present.  

I do so grow weary of a certain type of Catholic who insists that any Catholic who doesn&#039;t swallow whole each and every single teaching of the Catholic church is ignorant and/or uninformed of church teaching.  Most Catholics and ex-Catholics and lukewarm Catholics give a lot more thought to these issues than they&#039;re given credit for by the High Holy Pharisees of the Catholic Church, actually.  

Anyways, yeah, this is business as usual -- create a product, define your target market, and sell it to them.  They&#039;ve got middlemen (middle nuns, actually, which is pretty funny) and markups and everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Catholics don&#8217;t believe in transubstantiation, although they do indeed understand the theory.  They just don&#8217;t buy it and tend to fall into the consubstantiation camp in which the bread is still the bread and Christ is spiritually present.  </p>
<p>I do so grow weary of a certain type of Catholic who insists that any Catholic who doesn&#8217;t swallow whole each and every single teaching of the Catholic church is ignorant and/or uninformed of church teaching.  Most Catholics and ex-Catholics and lukewarm Catholics give a lot more thought to these issues than they&#8217;re given credit for by the High Holy Pharisees of the Catholic Church, actually.  </p>
<p>Anyways, yeah, this is business as usual &#8212; create a product, define your target market, and sell it to them.  They&#8217;ve got middlemen (middle nuns, actually, which is pretty funny) and markups and everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;there’s nothing particularly special about the communion wafers until the priest gets his hands on them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or indeed after the priest gets his hands on them.

I&#039;d like to see a life size jesus statue made of blessed communion wafers, but i suspect i&#039;d be very disappointed when it didn&#039;t lurch into life like some demented holy zombie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>there’s nothing particularly special about the communion wafers until the priest gets his hands on them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or indeed after the priest gets his hands on them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a life size jesus statue made of blessed communion wafers, but i suspect i&#8217;d be very disappointed when it didn&#8217;t lurch into life like some demented holy zombie.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder how they did it before the industrial age?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I assume they just took a regular loaf of bread and blessed it, which some churches still do.  As Tao Jones points out, there&#039;s nothing particularly special about the communion wafers until the priest gets his hands on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder how they did it before the industrial age?</p></blockquote>
<p>I assume they just took a regular loaf of bread and blessed it, which some churches still do.  As Tao Jones points out, there&#8217;s nothing particularly special about the communion wafers until the priest gets his hands on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tao Jones</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/12/03/how-do-jesus-crackers-get-made/comment-page-1/#comment-249601</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This was great!!! More posts like this! Fun, Informative. Also shows how religion is manufactured.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually this post was neither fun nor informative.  It, as well as a number of these comments, merely shows an ignorance of what Catholics do believe.

The Eucharist-as-body-of-Jesus comes from the Last Supper which signified a new covenant where the sacrifice of the flesh was Jesus, rather than the animal sacrifices of the old covenant.  During the Last Supper, Jesus did not make the bread magically appear (see: loaves and fishes,) instead he took regular plain old unleavened bread and blessed it allowing for transubstantiation.  Only then did the bread become the body of Jesus.  Likewise, when a priest is performing the Eucharistic prayer, he is asking God to transform the regular bread into the body of Jesus so the covenant can be renewed.  

The manufacturing process of the bread is completely and utterly irrelevant.  Any Catholic reading this would surely say, &quot;well duh, where do you think the bread comes from?&quot;  IT IS JUST BREAD until the Eucharistic Prayer.  How else is this bread supposed to be made?

This has about as much newsworthiness as if you said that sour cream and onion potato chips are manufactured without flavouring which is only added later on.  

&quot;Well duh&quot;&#039;s all around.  

Didn&#039;t &quot;wafergate&quot; teach anyone anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This was great!!! More posts like this! Fun, Informative. Also shows how religion is manufactured.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually this post was neither fun nor informative.  It, as well as a number of these comments, merely shows an ignorance of what Catholics do believe.</p>
<p>The Eucharist-as-body-of-Jesus comes from the Last Supper which signified a new covenant where the sacrifice of the flesh was Jesus, rather than the animal sacrifices of the old covenant.  During the Last Supper, Jesus did not make the bread magically appear (see: loaves and fishes,) instead he took regular plain old unleavened bread and blessed it allowing for transubstantiation.  Only then did the bread become the body of Jesus.  Likewise, when a priest is performing the Eucharistic prayer, he is asking God to transform the regular bread into the body of Jesus so the covenant can be renewed.  </p>
<p>The manufacturing process of the bread is completely and utterly irrelevant.  Any Catholic reading this would surely say, &#8220;well duh, where do you think the bread comes from?&#8221;  IT IS JUST BREAD until the Eucharistic Prayer.  How else is this bread supposed to be made?</p>
<p>This has about as much newsworthiness as if you said that sour cream and onion potato chips are manufactured without flavouring which is only added later on.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Well duh&#8221;&#8217;s all around.  </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t &#8220;wafergate&#8221; teach anyone anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great line of work - they make a product they know tastes awful, &amp; their sales go up when the economy tanks or anything else bad happens.  Fabulous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great line of work &#8211; they make a product they know tastes awful, &amp; their sales go up when the economy tanks or anything else bad happens.  Fabulous!</p>
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