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	<title>Comments on: Can You Stop the Pro-Christian Messages from Afar?</title>
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		<title>By: Elle Cohen</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/10/30/can-you-stop-the-pro-christian-messages-from-afar/comment-page-1/#comment-242176</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>katie should write to the school board, or she should send letters or e-mails to the parents of the students attending the class. She should send letters to anyone she can. While I do think she could be overreacting slightly, she might not be, (i dont know the whole situation) If this is allowed it is a slippery sloap til christianity is openly taught in public schools. Or she could write to the local newspaper. Even if it does no good, which it probably wont, at least she will of made her opinions known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>katie should write to the school board, or she should send letters or e-mails to the parents of the students attending the class. She should send letters to anyone she can. While I do think she could be overreacting slightly, she might not be, (i dont know the whole situation) If this is allowed it is a slippery sloap til christianity is openly taught in public schools. Or she could write to the local newspaper. Even if it does no good, which it probably wont, at least she will of made her opinions known.</p>
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		<title>By: JSug</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she&#039;s registered to vote in the district, she could contact the school board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she&#8217;s registered to vote in the district, she could contact the school board.</p>
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		<title>By: SarahH</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/10/30/can-you-stop-the-pro-christian-messages-from-afar/comment-page-1/#comment-241945</link>
		<dc:creator>SarahH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are tenured public school teachers?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes.  My mom works for the school system and really early on, I remember thinking that the word was &quot;ten year&quot; and it meant you were safe from being fired if you&#039;d worked there for ten years, lol.  But yes, it exists for public school teachers as well as college professors, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are tenured public school teachers?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  My mom works for the school system and really early on, I remember thinking that the word was &#8220;ten year&#8221; and it meant you were safe from being fired if you&#8217;d worked there for ten years, lol.  But yes, it exists for public school teachers as well as college professors, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@infideljoe,

I agree. We&#039;re going to end up looking like the curmudgeon sub-culture if we get too petty. I say we stick to the battles where people are actually being harmed - picked on, excluded, unfairly denied benefits, rights, etc. 
It&#039;ll be better if we&#039;re supporting a real live underdog, rather than just rushing in too start legal proceedings over abstract matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@infideljoe,</p>
<p>I agree. We&#8217;re going to end up looking like the curmudgeon sub-culture if we get too petty. I say we stick to the battles where people are actually being harmed &#8211; picked on, excluded, unfairly denied benefits, rights, etc.<br />
It&#8217;ll be better if we&#8217;re supporting a real live underdog, rather than just rushing in too start legal proceedings over abstract matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Transplanted Lawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Transplanted Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the Newdow case revealed, the courts will look to standing as a way to avoid dealing with arguments against popular religious practices.  Katie is not a student, and not a parent of a student.  So she lacks standing to do anything about it personally.  The boyfriend, who would have standing, has chosen to do nothing so as a practical matter that&#039;s where the matter will rest.

Besides, if the boyfriend is insufficiently outraged to complain, then we outsiders must at least consider the possibility that the video wasn&#039;t so bad after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the Newdow case revealed, the courts will look to standing as a way to avoid dealing with arguments against popular religious practices.  Katie is not a student, and not a parent of a student.  So she lacks standing to do anything about it personally.  The boyfriend, who would have standing, has chosen to do nothing so as a practical matter that&#8217;s where the matter will rest.</p>
<p>Besides, if the boyfriend is insufficiently outraged to complain, then we outsiders must at least consider the possibility that the video wasn&#8217;t so bad after all.</p>
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		<title>By: infideljoe</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/10/30/can-you-stop-the-pro-christian-messages-from-afar/comment-page-1/#comment-241913</link>
		<dc:creator>infideljoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should choose our battles wisely.  If we complain about every little religious thing, eventually no one will want to listen to us anymore.  Sometimes we need to lighten up a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should choose our battles wisely.  If we complain about every little religious thing, eventually no one will want to listen to us anymore.  Sometimes we need to lighten up a little.</p>
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		<title>By: arkonbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>arkonbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Falterer: as long as Christ is not overtly mentioned, I don&#039;t see the problem. I&#039;m an atheist, but I&#039;m not offended by the LDS commercials that say things like &quot;go play with your kids instead of sitting in front of the tv&quot; and &quot;be nice to your neighbors&quot;.  I think they&#039;re great and more people should follow their advice. 

Her reaction uses a flawed logic. For example: If Xtian dogma  say &#039;don&#039;t lie&#039; and the videos say &#039;don&#039;t lie&#039; and if it&#039;s being shown in the bible belt then it must be overtly Xtian and its entire purpose is evangelical. 

I&#039;m also inclined to agree with Richard W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Falterer: as long as Christ is not overtly mentioned, I don&#8217;t see the problem. I&#8217;m an atheist, but I&#8217;m not offended by the LDS commercials that say things like &#8220;go play with your kids instead of sitting in front of the tv&#8221; and &#8220;be nice to your neighbors&#8221;.  I think they&#8217;re great and more people should follow their advice. </p>
<p>Her reaction uses a flawed logic. For example: If Xtian dogma  say &#8216;don&#8217;t lie&#8217; and the videos say &#8216;don&#8217;t lie&#8217; and if it&#8217;s being shown in the bible belt then it must be overtly Xtian and its entire purpose is evangelical. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also inclined to agree with Richard W.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are tenured public school teachers?</description>
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		<title>By: miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that.  It sounds like Kaitie is overreacting a bit.

Just e-mail the school.  Just tell them that you&#039;re an alumni, and that you heard a rumor that you are unhappy about.  If they&#039;re really nasty about it, &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; you can make a big deal about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that.  It sounds like Kaitie is overreacting a bit.</p>
<p>Just e-mail the school.  Just tell them that you&#8217;re an alumni, and that you heard a rumor that you are unhappy about.  If they&#8217;re really nasty about it, <em>then</em> you can make a big deal about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Falterer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falterer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What precisely is offensive about the video? It sounds like an interview with two young Christians talking about their opinions on moral issues. How was it &quot;obviously implied? I didn&#039;t read anything specific in there that made me upset. Is the school presenting this video &lt;i&gt;instead&lt;/i&gt; of a comprehensive sex education course? Kaitie may be overreacting a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What precisely is offensive about the video? It sounds like an interview with two young Christians talking about their opinions on moral issues. How was it &#8220;obviously implied? I didn&#8217;t read anything specific in there that made me upset. Is the school presenting this video <i>instead</i> of a comprehensive sex education course? Kaitie may be overreacting a little.</p>
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