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	<title>Comments on: The Truth About Mercy Ministries of America</title>
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		<title>By: Sean the Blogonaut &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Mercy Ministries blog posts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean the Blogonaut &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Mercy Ministries blog posts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My little sister&#039;s latest relapse (she&#039;s bipolar) was thanks to her Christian Bible study leader and boyfriend (that&#039;s two people) telling her she doesn&#039;t need medicine or counseling; she needs to pray harder and have faith.  And it&#039;s not them who have to deal with her when she&#039;s coming down off her medication and trying to convince her to take them again.  And its not them that they&#039;ll get the call to identify the body if she ever really loses it, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My little sister&#8217;s latest relapse (she&#8217;s bipolar) was thanks to her Christian Bible study leader and boyfriend (that&#8217;s two people) telling her she doesn&#8217;t need medicine or counseling; she needs to pray harder and have faith.  And it&#8217;s not them who have to deal with her when she&#8217;s coming down off her medication and trying to convince her to take them again.  And its not them that they&#8217;ll get the call to identify the body if she ever really loses it, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Kozbob</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/10/03/the-truth-about-mercy-ministries-of-america/comment-page-1/#comment-232226</link>
		<dc:creator>Kozbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few Mercy Ministries houses here in Australia too.  One of them closed down recently after a heap of negative press about treating girls the Wynne recounts. 
The sad thing is that many of these girls are desperate for help for their troubles, and desperate for spiritual love and acceptance.  And they get stiffed on both fronts, then tossed out like trash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few Mercy Ministries houses here in Australia too.  One of them closed down recently after a heap of negative press about treating girls the Wynne recounts.<br />
The sad thing is that many of these girls are desperate for help for their troubles, and desperate for spiritual love and acceptance.  And they get stiffed on both fronts, then tossed out like trash.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cynic Sage</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/10/03/the-truth-about-mercy-ministries-of-america/comment-page-1/#comment-231800</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cynic Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Wynne has a blog of her own where she is trying to expose Mercy for what it is and show real support for the women in the program.&lt;/em&gt;

Actually that blog doesn&#039;t belong to Wynne, it belongs to another American Mercy Survivor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Wynne has a blog of her own where she is trying to expose Mercy for what it is and show real support for the women in the program.</em></p>
<p>Actually that blog doesn&#8217;t belong to Wynne, it belongs to another American Mercy Survivor.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Blogonaut</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/10/03/the-truth-about-mercy-ministries-of-america/comment-page-1/#comment-231769</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean the Blogonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big problem is of course the lack of government oversight.  Alcorn set the program up precisely so that she would have no interference from government. While this means no funding it also means they could do whatever the hell she wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big problem is of course the lack of government oversight.  Alcorn set the program up precisely so that she would have no interference from government. While this means no funding it also means they could do whatever the hell she wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the stories I have heard about lgbt and non christian homeless children being abused at the catholic run Covenant House shelters (which do recieve government funding).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the stories I have heard about lgbt and non christian homeless children being abused at the catholic run Covenant House shelters (which do recieve government funding).</p>
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		<title>By: geru</title>
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		<dc:creator>geru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this, I just came up with the shortest possible description for the phenomenon known as religion:

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Unnecessary suffering&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this, I just came up with the shortest possible description for the phenomenon known as religion:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Unnecessary suffering&#8221;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Larry Huffman</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/10/03/the-truth-about-mercy-ministries-of-america/comment-page-1/#comment-231724</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real key, I think, is the mainstream media&#039;s unwillingness to report such matters frankly.

Look...if there was a bunch of crackpot psychologists who set up shop here in So Cal...and began doing these kinds of things without the religious context...the evening news would be filming scathing expose&#039;s about them and pretty much making sure they could not do any kind of substantial business again. But...add that it is a religious based group and everyone shuts up about it.

If we reported this kind of stupidity and incompetence accross the board, rather than giving religion a free pass...well, maybe more people would wake up to the delusion. At the very least, maybe more church people would still value real professional treatment over this crack-pottery. 

Places like this...and other abuses in the name of religion...will occur until society as a whole can stop giving religion a free pass. When we hold religion to the same standards as we do anything else, it will crumple under it&#039;s own dogmatic weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real key, I think, is the mainstream media&#8217;s unwillingness to report such matters frankly.</p>
<p>Look&#8230;if there was a bunch of crackpot psychologists who set up shop here in So Cal&#8230;and began doing these kinds of things without the religious context&#8230;the evening news would be filming scathing expose&#8217;s about them and pretty much making sure they could not do any kind of substantial business again. But&#8230;add that it is a religious based group and everyone shuts up about it.</p>
<p>If we reported this kind of stupidity and incompetence accross the board, rather than giving religion a free pass&#8230;well, maybe more people would wake up to the delusion. At the very least, maybe more church people would still value real professional treatment over this crack-pottery. </p>
<p>Places like this&#8230;and other abuses in the name of religion&#8230;will occur until society as a whole can stop giving religion a free pass. When we hold religion to the same standards as we do anything else, it will crumple under it&#8217;s own dogmatic weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. It really does. &#171; Sunny spells and scattered showers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. It really does. &#171; Sunny spells and scattered showers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that Wynne has some businesses listed on her site that support Mercy.  One of them is Nelson Mazda.  I once dated a girl who worked for this company.  She said they were supposed to be a Christian company, but they did all the typical car dealership stuff like fudging loan documents and ripping off little old ladies.  She ended up getting fired for not being a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that Wynne has some businesses listed on her site that support Mercy.  One of them is Nelson Mazda.  I once dated a girl who worked for this company.  She said they were supposed to be a Christian company, but they did all the typical car dealership stuff like fudging loan documents and ripping off little old ladies.  She ended up getting fired for not being a Christian.</p>
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