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		<title>By: mh</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/09/09/meat-vs-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-340458</link>
		<dc:creator>mh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder why omnivorous (not carnivore - humans don&#039;t eat raw flesh) atheists get so riled up over the idea of veganism. The mere mention of the &quot;v&quot; word sends atheists into baseless, illogical arguments. So much so that if you replaced &quot;veganism&quot; with the word &quot;Christian&quot; the arguments would sound like believers (weakly) defending their faith.

I don&#039;t use animals. It is not necessary to be healthy/happy/whatever.
I do not believe in a higher being. It is not necessary to be moral/happy/whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder why omnivorous (not carnivore &#8211; humans don&#8217;t eat raw flesh) atheists get so riled up over the idea of veganism. The mere mention of the &#8220;v&#8221; word sends atheists into baseless, illogical arguments. So much so that if you replaced &#8220;veganism&#8221; with the word &#8220;Christian&#8221; the arguments would sound like believers (weakly) defending their faith.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use animals. It is not necessary to be healthy/happy/whatever.<br />
I do not believe in a higher being. It is not necessary to be moral/happy/whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonyMouse</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/09/09/meat-vs-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-301749</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonyMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geeze... after reading some of these posts, I have to say that I am rather offended by some of the elitism posted by some of these vegetarians out there.  Some of their comments seem to boil down to &quot;How DARE meat-eaters voice their opinions?  It&#039;s not like they&#039;re RIGHT!&quot;

They do have a point, though - I haven&#039;t seen any posts posing any of these questions to meat-eaters.  It&#039;s almost as though being in the majority - or being &quot;wrong&quot;? - means that we don&#039;t need to express our opinions.

I would be happy to explain why meat-eating is not inherently unethical (modern meat farming being another story altogether), but it&#039;s clear that my opinion is not wanted here, so I&#039;ll refrain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geeze&#8230; after reading some of these posts, I have to say that I am rather offended by some of the elitism posted by some of these vegetarians out there.  Some of their comments seem to boil down to &#8220;How DARE meat-eaters voice their opinions?  It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re RIGHT!&#8221;</p>
<p>They do have a point, though &#8211; I haven&#8217;t seen any posts posing any of these questions to meat-eaters.  It&#8217;s almost as though being in the majority &#8211; or being &#8220;wrong&#8221;? &#8211; means that we don&#8217;t need to express our opinions.</p>
<p>I would be happy to explain why meat-eating is not inherently unethical (modern meat farming being another story altogether), but it&#8217;s clear that my opinion is not wanted here, so I&#8217;ll refrain.</p>
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		<title>By: cipher</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/09/09/meat-vs-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-227454</link>
		<dc:creator>cipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cathy’s assertions are not only ridiculous, but the Colombia U. research found that meat eaters were far, far more prone to B-12 deficiency that pure vegetarians. Busted!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What&#039;s this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cathy’s assertions are not only ridiculous, but the Colombia U. research found that meat eaters were far, far more prone to B-12 deficiency that pure vegetarians. Busted!</p></blockquote>
<p>What&#8217;s this?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/09/09/meat-vs-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-227432</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting how this question was posed to vegetarian atheists, yet carnies responded- perhaps suggesting some ethical anxiety on their part, or merely suggesting that their diets have caused them to have microstrokes, thereby limiting their ability to read with any understanding.  ;-)

  Belief in the supernatural of any kind (karma, Jesus, The Secret) is pretty much a dealbreaker, but so is eating animals.

 In my experience, a good heart and ethical consistency makes for better relationships - even if they believe in some annoyingly stupid things. 

 So i&#039;d have to begrudgingly prefer the veg*n christian.  There&#039;s no way i&#039;d get seriously involved with someone who eats animals when we simply don&#039;t have to.  In fact all the data says it&#039;s a bad idea to eat animals.  the ecological and health evidence mounts every day.

  That said, i&#039;d have to admit that if i was really desperately horny, i&#039;d even fork Sarah Palin - but only in the ass, so that it would really hurt.

 And a vegan who sleeps with a meat-eater is what we call a carniwhore.  Yes, i know, i&#039;m a slut.  A full prostate gland is a terrible thing. 

Please, won&#039;t you give to the the Prevent Prostate-Brain Logic Override Disease Foundation?  We don&#039;t test on animals... only really hawt women.   ;-)



 PS Cathy&#039;s assertions are not only ridiculous, but the Colombia U. research found that meat eaters were far, far more prone to B-12 deficiency that pure vegetarians.  Busted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how this question was posed to vegetarian atheists, yet carnies responded- perhaps suggesting some ethical anxiety on their part, or merely suggesting that their diets have caused them to have microstrokes, thereby limiting their ability to read with any understanding.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>  Belief in the supernatural of any kind (karma, Jesus, The Secret) is pretty much a dealbreaker, but so is eating animals.</p>
<p> In my experience, a good heart and ethical consistency makes for better relationships &#8211; even if they believe in some annoyingly stupid things. </p>
<p> So i&#8217;d have to begrudgingly prefer the veg*n christian.  There&#8217;s no way i&#8217;d get seriously involved with someone who eats animals when we simply don&#8217;t have to.  In fact all the data says it&#8217;s a bad idea to eat animals.  the ecological and health evidence mounts every day.</p>
<p>  That said, i&#8217;d have to admit that if i was really desperately horny, i&#8217;d even fork Sarah Palin &#8211; but only in the ass, so that it would really hurt.</p>
<p> And a vegan who sleeps with a meat-eater is what we call a carniwhore.  Yes, i know, i&#8217;m a slut.  A full prostate gland is a terrible thing. </p>
<p>Please, won&#8217;t you give to the the Prevent Prostate-Brain Logic Override Disease Foundation?  We don&#8217;t test on animals&#8230; only really hawt women.   <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> PS Cathy&#8217;s assertions are not only ridiculous, but the Colombia U. research found that meat eaters were far, far more prone to B-12 deficiency that pure vegetarians.  Busted!</p>
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		<title>By: hoverFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoverFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hope that I wouldn&#039;t exclude a person because of one or two minor traits, whether that be religion, diet or something like hair or skin colour.  As long as the differences weren&#039;t insurmountable I&#039;d like to think I&#039;d make a reasonable effort to integrate their ideas into our relationship.

I wouldn&#039;t eat meat or go to church (unless the church had a sale or something) and I wouldn&#039;t expect them to give anything up.  I would mock their religious beliefs mercilessly and affectionately refer to her as &quot;my Jesus Freak&quot; but I&#039;d expect to be called &quot;the heathen&quot; or &quot;the lettuce muncher&quot;.  Relationships are about give and take after all.

She&#039;d also need to understand that I wouldn&#039;t leave my current girlfriend because relationships are about honesty too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope that I wouldn&#8217;t exclude a person because of one or two minor traits, whether that be religion, diet or something like hair or skin colour.  As long as the differences weren&#8217;t insurmountable I&#8217;d like to think I&#8217;d make a reasonable effort to integrate their ideas into our relationship.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t eat meat or go to church (unless the church had a sale or something) and I wouldn&#8217;t expect them to give anything up.  I would mock their religious beliefs mercilessly and affectionately refer to her as &#8220;my Jesus Freak&#8221; but I&#8217;d expect to be called &#8220;the heathen&#8221; or &#8220;the lettuce muncher&#8221;.  Relationships are about give and take after all.</p>
<p>She&#8217;d also need to understand that I wouldn&#8217;t leave my current girlfriend because relationships are about honesty too.</p>
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		<title>By: Hann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a vegetarian and anti-theist. I care more about vegetarianism than atheism.

Peace.

XVX for life, R.A.S.H. &#039;til death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a vegetarian and anti-theist. I care more about vegetarianism than atheism.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>XVX for life, R.A.S.H. &#8217;til death.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a vegetarian dating a carnivorous atheist, but since I do the cooking, he&#039;s pretty much vegetarian too!  

Atheism and rational thought are critical components of my world view--I can&#039;t see myself being with anyone who didn&#039;t share those, I don&#039;t feel I could make such a strong connection with someone who expressed religious preferences.  Nothing personal though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a vegetarian dating a carnivorous atheist, but since I do the cooking, he&#8217;s pretty much vegetarian too!  </p>
<p>Atheism and rational thought are critical components of my world view&#8211;I can&#8217;t see myself being with anyone who didn&#8217;t share those, I don&#8217;t feel I could make such a strong connection with someone who expressed religious preferences.  Nothing personal though!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan D Lion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan D Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mark N said:&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;although if someone invents a vegetarian chorizo, and I may reconsider.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Start reconsidering because there are now several vegan chorizos and they taste great! :)

i think vegan is to diet as atheism is to reason. Once i realized what we&#039;re doing to non-human animals is being done just because we can made it impossible to stay complicit. I see veganism as part and parcel to my new found skepticality. :)

Anybody who held on so dearly to eating animals when there is no good reason would make me seriously question them. I do understand it cuz though because i was the biggest meat eater of all. To be fair i know several vegans who date omnivores and usually the omni will eat alongside the vegan except for outings without them etc. This could be a compromise. 

Whereas for somebody who was religious i would be hard-pressed to ask them to be atheist &quot;at home&quot;. Still, i realized even as teenager that god was some f-ed up bullshit. Believing in that crap as an adult would make me question them even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mark N said:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>although if someone invents a vegetarian chorizo, and I may reconsider.</p></blockquote>
<p>Start reconsidering because there are now several vegan chorizos and they taste great! <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i think vegan is to diet as atheism is to reason. Once i realized what we&#8217;re doing to non-human animals is being done just because we can made it impossible to stay complicit. I see veganism as part and parcel to my new found skepticality. <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anybody who held on so dearly to eating animals when there is no good reason would make me seriously question them. I do understand it cuz though because i was the biggest meat eater of all. To be fair i know several vegans who date omnivores and usually the omni will eat alongside the vegan except for outings without them etc. This could be a compromise. </p>
<p>Whereas for somebody who was religious i would be hard-pressed to ask them to be atheist &#8220;at home&#8221;. Still, i realized even as teenager that god was some f-ed up bullshit. Believing in that crap as an adult would make me question them even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lies, all lies. There are no vegetarian atheists - we&#039;re all baby-eaters, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lies, all lies. There are no vegetarian atheists &#8211; we&#8217;re all baby-eaters, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Athena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a vegetarian, but I am an atheist. My fiance is also an atheist, and I have to admit I was disappointed when he said that he might not have wanted to date me if I were religious.

I don&#039;t believe that love know bounds created by stupid labels. While I think religion can sometimes be corrupt and a driving force of discrimination and hate in the world that doesn&#039;t mean I think all religious people are bad people.

Just as I wouldn&#039;t want a religious person to write me off as being immoral without getting to know me first, I refuse to make assumptions about religious people that would keep me from dating one (if I were still single, that is).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a vegetarian, but I am an atheist. My fiance is also an atheist, and I have to admit I was disappointed when he said that he might not have wanted to date me if I were religious.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that love know bounds created by stupid labels. While I think religion can sometimes be corrupt and a driving force of discrimination and hate in the world that doesn&#8217;t mean I think all religious people are bad people.</p>
<p>Just as I wouldn&#8217;t want a religious person to write me off as being immoral without getting to know me first, I refuse to make assumptions about religious people that would keep me from dating one (if I were still single, that is).</p>
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