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	<title>Comments on: Senator Charles Grassley</title>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-208369</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things will have to get a lot worse before most Americans get real.  Sad but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things will have to get a lot worse before most Americans get real.  Sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: cubiclegrrl</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-208318</link>
		<dc:creator>cubiclegrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Personal aside:  Stogoe?  The one who used to hang with the RSR crowd?  If so, happy to see you again!  Small Internet, hey?  ;-)]

On-topic:  Sadly, I don&#039;t think we&#039;ve seen quite the last of it yet.  And the small-government conservatives will have Mordor&#039;s own time gathering the funding and clout to form a viable political force when the Robber Barons bankrolling the GOP think that all they have to do is push the right buttons (Same-sex marriage, immigration, Muslims, abortion, blahblahblah) to get their base to ignore how they are being blatantly screwed.

I&#039;d really rather see the &quot;traditional&quot; (read: pre-Reaganite) conservatives have a voice.  One one hand, I&#039;d dearly like to see a viable third party.  But I don&#039;t think that a Libertarian alliance as the answer for disaffected conservatives or brassed-off liberals.

But despite what I want, *something* has to put a stake through the heart through the perversion that the GOP has become.  The interests of mega-corporations and mega-churches are most definitely *not* aligned with the interests of America. Whether or not America realizes that just yet is another question.  The biggest hurdle is getting a slice--even a small one--of the 49% who wrote these so-called &quot;leaders&quot; a blank check in 2004 to admit their error.  People are never so intractable--or dangerous--as when they know that they&#039;re in the wrong.

But my gut sense is that the zeitgeist is sobering up.  It&#039;s one thing to wake up in a Vegas hotel room, and quite another to have your kid find you passed out on the back porch.  Time to grow up, peeps.  The days of following a swaggering frat boy around and pretending to laugh at his tacky jokes are long over.  You still think you&#039;re a world power?  Then start acting like it.  For starters, let&#039;s stop letting folks who think they talk to some bearded dude in the sky call any shots whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Personal aside:  Stogoe?  The one who used to hang with the RSR crowd?  If so, happy to see you again!  Small Internet, hey?  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ]</p>
<p>On-topic:  Sadly, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve seen quite the last of it yet.  And the small-government conservatives will have Mordor&#8217;s own time gathering the funding and clout to form a viable political force when the Robber Barons bankrolling the GOP think that all they have to do is push the right buttons (Same-sex marriage, immigration, Muslims, abortion, blahblahblah) to get their base to ignore how they are being blatantly screwed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really rather see the &#8220;traditional&#8221; (read: pre-Reaganite) conservatives have a voice.  One one hand, I&#8217;d dearly like to see a viable third party.  But I don&#8217;t think that a Libertarian alliance as the answer for disaffected conservatives or brassed-off liberals.</p>
<p>But despite what I want, *something* has to put a stake through the heart through the perversion that the GOP has become.  The interests of mega-corporations and mega-churches are most definitely *not* aligned with the interests of America. Whether or not America realizes that just yet is another question.  The biggest hurdle is getting a slice&#8211;even a small one&#8211;of the 49% who wrote these so-called &#8220;leaders&#8221; a blank check in 2004 to admit their error.  People are never so intractable&#8211;or dangerous&#8211;as when they know that they&#8217;re in the wrong.</p>
<p>But my gut sense is that the zeitgeist is sobering up.  It&#8217;s one thing to wake up in a Vegas hotel room, and quite another to have your kid find you passed out on the back porch.  Time to grow up, peeps.  The days of following a swaggering frat boy around and pretending to laugh at his tacky jokes are long over.  You still think you&#8217;re a world power?  Then start acting like it.  For starters, let&#8217;s stop letting folks who think they talk to some bearded dude in the sky call any shots whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: David D.G.</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-207178</link>
		<dc:creator>David D.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Doesn’t matter how long a supporter, and no matter how long a devoted follower of the One True Way ™ you are, eventually it’ll come down to “Not quite enough of a supporter” or “Suspected of wavering in your beliefs” or just simply “Didn’t have the right haircut.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re aware of it, but this has been LITERALLY true!  When Roman Christianity first competed with Irish Christianity in the 7th(?) century for which would become the standard practice in England, one of the things the Roman contingent thought was just unacceptably barbaric was the type of tonsure worn by the Irish monks (shaving off all hair from the midpoint of the head forward), as opposed to the type of tonsure worn by the Roman monks (shaving off a circular patch of hair at the crown of the head).  The Irish practice for dating Easter was the biggest issue, but the tonsure was pretty high up there as well.


~David D.G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Doesn’t matter how long a supporter, and no matter how long a devoted follower of the One True Way ™ you are, eventually it’ll come down to “Not quite enough of a supporter” or “Suspected of wavering in your beliefs” or just simply “Didn’t have the right haircut.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re aware of it, but this has been LITERALLY true!  When Roman Christianity first competed with Irish Christianity in the 7th(?) century for which would become the standard practice in England, one of the things the Roman contingent thought was just unacceptably barbaric was the type of tonsure worn by the Irish monks (shaving off all hair from the midpoint of the head forward), as opposed to the type of tonsure worn by the Roman monks (shaving off a circular patch of hair at the crown of the head).  The Irish practice for dating Easter was the biggest issue, but the tonsure was pretty high up there as well.</p>
<p>~David D.G.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-207112</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;ve had my dick-ish moments, I admit it, and I won&#039;t promise that there won&#039;t be others.  But, at least I &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; I can be a dick:  with knowledge there is power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;ve had my dick-ish moments, I admit it, and I won&#8217;t promise that there won&#8217;t be others.  But, at least I <em>know</em> I can be a dick:  with knowledge there is power.</p>
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		<title>By: cipher</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-207102</link>
		<dc:creator>cipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Stogoe, you know how it is with us Easterners. We figure that once you get past the Hudson River, it&#039;s pretty much all the same to the Pacific!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Stogoe, you know how it is with us Easterners. We figure that once you get past the Hudson River, it&#8217;s pretty much all the same to the Pacific!</p>
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		<title>By: stogoe</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-207077</link>
		<dc:creator>stogoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always seen Iowa as part of the Upper Midwest, more kin to Minnesota and Wisconsin and Illinoise than Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska.  So when someone lumps my beloved Iowa in with places with constitutional bigotry amendments and creationist school boards, it irks me.  I mean, we&#039;ve actually had same-sex marriage licenses issued in our state.  Have you, Illinois?  Have you, Minnesota?  Have you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always seen Iowa as part of the Upper Midwest, more kin to Minnesota and Wisconsin and Illinoise than Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska.  So when someone lumps my beloved Iowa in with places with constitutional bigotry amendments and creationist school boards, it irks me.  I mean, we&#8217;ve actually had same-sex marriage licenses issued in our state.  Have you, Illinois?  Have you, Minnesota?  Have you?</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty B</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-207074</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite being a &quot;godless liberal&quot; I have always voted for Charles Grassley and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future. In fact, I just finished writing to him to support him in his investigation of the &quot;prosperity gospel&quot; televangelists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite being a &#8220;godless liberal&#8221; I have always voted for Charles Grassley and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future. In fact, I just finished writing to him to support him in his investigation of the &#8220;prosperity gospel&#8221; televangelists.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-207030</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s the second time I’ve been called a “dick” on this site. I’m beginning to think it’s me!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL!

 I&#039;ve been on other forums that were so much less &quot;friendly&quot; that practically every declarative statement was casually terminated with an epithet directed at the other partaker(s) in the discussion. No one even thought twice about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That’s the second time I’ve been called a “dick” on this site. I’m beginning to think it’s me!</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL!</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve been on other forums that were so much less &#8220;friendly&#8221; that practically every declarative statement was casually terminated with an epithet directed at the other partaker(s) in the discussion. No one even thought twice about it.</p>
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		<title>By: cipher</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/22/senator-charles-grassley/comment-page-1/#comment-207029</link>
		<dc:creator>cipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think your comments rise to the level of “dickyness.” I actually found that last sentence rather amusing.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thanks, Ron!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t think your comments rise to the level of “dickyness.” I actually found that last sentence rather amusing.
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<p>Thanks, Ron!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron in Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cipher

I don&#039;t think your comments rise to the level of &quot;dickyness.&quot;  I actually found that last sentence rather amusing.

Besides, it&#039;s the internet.  Someone, somewhere is going to believe that you&#039;re a dick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cipher</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think your comments rise to the level of &#8220;dickyness.&#8221;  I actually found that last sentence rather amusing.</p>
<p>Besides, it&#8217;s the internet.  Someone, somewhere is going to believe that you&#8217;re a dick.</p>
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