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		<title>By: John Pritzlaff</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-185002</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pritzlaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Huh. Pretty sure Christians have been using their beliefs to defend their actions for a while now. I’d hope atheists would know better.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s nothing wrong with using your beliefs to defend your actions.  What&#039;s wrong is using your beliefs to defend indefensible actions.  For example, saying I don&#039;t go to church because I&#039;m an atheist is fine, but saying I have sex in church because I&#039;m an atheist isn&#039;t fine, since that&#039;s illegal.

It&#039;s a subtle difference, but it&#039;s important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Huh. Pretty sure Christians have been using their beliefs to defend their actions for a while now. I’d hope atheists would know better.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with using your beliefs to defend your actions.  What&#8217;s wrong is using your beliefs to defend indefensible actions.  For example, saying I don&#8217;t go to church because I&#8217;m an atheist is fine, but saying I have sex in church because I&#8217;m an atheist isn&#8217;t fine, since that&#8217;s illegal.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a subtle difference, but it&#8217;s important.</p>
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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; Couple Who Got It On in Confessional Booth Repent</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-183921</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; Couple Who Got It On in Confessional Booth Repent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the couple that said they were doing it in a church confessional booth because &#8220;We are atheists and for us, having sex in church is like doing it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the couple that said they were doing it in a church confessional booth because &#8220;We are atheists and for us, having sex in church is like doing it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-179930</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;”We are atheists and for us, having sex in church is like doing it any other place”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Huh. Pretty sure Christians have been using their beliefs to defend their actions for a while now. I&#039;d hope atheists would know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>”We are atheists and for us, having sex in church is like doing it any other place”</p></blockquote>
<p>Huh. Pretty sure Christians have been using their beliefs to defend their actions for a while now. I&#8217;d hope atheists would know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Clawson</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-179924</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Clawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The agency said the pair — a 31-year-old laborer and a 32-year-old teacher — defended their conduct saying: “We are atheists and for us, having sex in church is like doing it any other place.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just because you don&#039;t share the beliefs of a church doesn&#039;t exempt you from common courtesy and respect for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The agency said the pair — a 31-year-old laborer and a 32-year-old teacher — defended their conduct saying: “We are atheists and for us, having sex in church is like doing it any other place.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Just because you don&#8217;t share the beliefs of a church doesn&#8217;t exempt you from common courtesy and respect for others.</p>
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		<title>By: stogoe</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-179835</link>
		<dc:creator>stogoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If they’re in their thirties and are still Goths, they have more serious problems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Get bent, cipher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If they’re in their thirties and are still Goths, they have more serious problems.</p></blockquote>
<p>Get bent, cipher.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-179826</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey shouldn&#039;t we be applauding the teacher for at least not having sex with a student!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey shouldn&#8217;t we be applauding the teacher for at least not having sex with a student!</p>
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		<title>By: HappyNat</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-179810</link>
		<dc:creator>HappyNat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;These people obviously thought they were “free” to do whatever they wanted wherever they wanted. And that’s the tragedy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think&quot;tragedy&quot; is a bit strong for this situation.  They wanted to have sex where they weren&#039;t supposed to be having sex.  This can be an exciting thing to do, although some people take this fetish to far.  They were trying to add a little spice to their sex life.  It wasn&#039;t smart or considerate, but it certainly isn&#039;t a tragedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>These people obviously thought they were “free” to do whatever they wanted wherever they wanted. And that’s the tragedy.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think&#8221;tragedy&#8221; is a bit strong for this situation.  They wanted to have sex where they weren&#8217;t supposed to be having sex.  This can be an exciting thing to do, although some people take this fetish to far.  They were trying to add a little spice to their sex life.  It wasn&#8217;t smart or considerate, but it certainly isn&#8217;t a tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Viggo the Carpathian</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-179792</link>
		<dc:creator>Viggo the Carpathian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a stupid arrogant act. This is no different than doing it under a table at a restaurant or in the changing room of a department store or in an airline toilet. It&#039;s just a stupid self-indulgence and even more it&#039;s tacky (as was the seat in the confessional afterward... sorry, I couldn&#039;t stop myself).

The problem with people like this is that they go in for acts of self indulgence and complain when there are consequences. If you don&#039;t want to get charged with public indecency don&#039;t be publicly indecent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a stupid arrogant act. This is no different than doing it under a table at a restaurant or in the changing room of a department store or in an airline toilet. It&#8217;s just a stupid self-indulgence and even more it&#8217;s tacky (as was the seat in the confessional afterward&#8230; sorry, I couldn&#8217;t stop myself).</p>
<p>The problem with people like this is that they go in for acts of self indulgence and complain when there are consequences. If you don&#8217;t want to get charged with public indecency don&#8217;t be publicly indecent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod Martin</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/04/you-screwed-up/comment-page-1/#comment-179785</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hemant, I have to disagree in at least one point.  

&quot;Yes, they screwed up.

Not because they did it in a church.

But because they got caught.&quot;

I think, rather, that their problem was considering any public place (church, bathroom, janitor&#039;s closet) their sexual playground.  That entitlement attitude is killing our culture.  I see it in my students -- they get confused about their &quot;rights&quot; and what they&#039;re entitled to.  

These people obviously thought they were &quot;free&quot; to do whatever they wanted wherever they wanted.  And that&#039;s the tragedy.  A free society does not mean one without boundaries.  We limit ourselves sometimes to gain freedom for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hemant, I have to disagree in at least one point.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, they screwed up.</p>
<p>Not because they did it in a church.</p>
<p>But because they got caught.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think, rather, that their problem was considering any public place (church, bathroom, janitor&#8217;s closet) their sexual playground.  That entitlement attitude is killing our culture.  I see it in my students &#8212; they get confused about their &#8220;rights&#8221; and what they&#8217;re entitled to.  </p>
<p>These people obviously thought they were &#8220;free&#8221; to do whatever they wanted wherever they wanted.  And that&#8217;s the tragedy.  A free society does not mean one without boundaries.  We limit ourselves sometimes to gain freedom for all.</p>
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		<title>By: cipher</title>
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		<dc:creator>cipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they&#039;re in their thirties and are still Goths, they have more serious problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they&#8217;re in their thirties and are still Goths, they have more serious problems.</p>
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