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		<title>By: Acomplia</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/26/devotion-vs-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-220633</link>
		<dc:creator>Acomplia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely post. Please add my email address to your list and email me the updates if possible. I always like to read your blog and comment on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely post. Please add my email address to your list and email me the updates if possible. I always like to read your blog and comment on it.</p>
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		<title>By: David D.G.</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/26/devotion-vs-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-174245</link>
		<dc:creator>David D.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Krista:&lt;/strong&gt; If nothing else, I&#039;ll bet that your response probably answered &lt;em&gt;someone else&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; prayers!

;^D


~David D.G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Krista:</strong> If nothing else, I&#8217;ll bet that your response probably answered <em>someone else&#8217;s</em> prayers!</p>
<p>;^D</p>
<p>~David D.G.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerri</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/26/devotion-vs-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-174114</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing... I saw the eyes right off on the color photo and was instantly mesmerized... I found myself grabbing my checkbook.  Wow.

Now  I wish I&#039;d opened mine when I got it, too!  I&#039;m doing a belief scrapbook (similar to the scrapbooking world&#039;s &quot;faith albums&quot;) and i would have LOVED to include that on a page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing&#8230; I saw the eyes right off on the color photo and was instantly mesmerized&#8230; I found myself grabbing my checkbook.  Wow.</p>
<p>Now  I wish I&#8217;d opened mine when I got it, too!  I&#8217;m doing a belief scrapbook (similar to the scrapbooking world&#8217;s &#8220;faith albums&#8221;) and i would have LOVED to include that on a page.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/26/devotion-vs-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-174046</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Heather said:  @Hover-I used to attach such things to big rocks and send them back, but now I need to check to see if they can simply refuse delivery and stick the postal service with the cost of transport. For those of you who wish to try this at home, include anything but metal-it messes up the sorting equipment.&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s been several years since I&#039;ve worked for the USPS, but if I remember correctly, if a business refuses delivery in one of their postage-paid envelopes, they risk losing their Business Reply Mail permit.

I just got this letter today too - perhaps I should photocopy the envelope and mail them several things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Heather said:  @Hover-I used to attach such things to big rocks and send them back, but now I need to check to see if they can simply refuse delivery and stick the postal service with the cost of transport. For those of you who wish to try this at home, include anything but metal-it messes up the sorting equipment.</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s been several years since I&#8217;ve worked for the USPS, but if I remember correctly, if a business refuses delivery in one of their postage-paid envelopes, they risk losing their Business Reply Mail permit.</p>
<p>I just got this letter today too &#8211; perhaps I should photocopy the envelope and mail them several things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/26/devotion-vs-deceit/comment-page-1/#comment-173459</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian E - First, one of the 10 commandments says to not give false testimony. Thus if they are making a claim that this prayer rug (which itself has no scriptural logic behind it) can do something supernatural when it obviously does not, that person is giving false testimony. Thus my claim, that this is nothing but a scam and outside of Christianity, is quite obvious.

However, I would like to also point out the often confused situation that Christianity is hypocritical since it says you shouldn’t lie, but everyone (Christians included) do lie (or fill in any other sin). I guess the first thing to say is, yes all Christians are hypocrites…we all fail to do what Christianity says we are to do, but that isn’t the point of Christianity. Christianity is the acknowledging that we are sinful and thus asking and receiving forgiveness through Christ Jesus. I know writing that on an atheistic blog is probably just going to produce more ridicule, but that is the core belief of Christianity. For that reason those that claim to be Christian are actually stating that they are not perfect, sinful, and in need of forgiveness. Christianity offers two ways to heaven; (1) be perfect or (2) ask for forgiveness through Jesus. FYI – I don’t know anyone that is trying route (1) currently.

Now that you have challenged my statement let me challenge you’re logic. If I were to go on a killing spree in the name of atheism (one could picture me saying that since we are merely products of evolution it is vital to weed out the weak and strengthen our specie), would my actions then define atheistic principles? I certainly won’t hold you responsible for every action that someone holding to your beliefs does, so why do you do the same to me. Shouldn’t Christianity, atheism, and any other religion (atheism is a religion in the sense that it is a set of beliefs) only be held accountable for what the tenets of that faith claim and not the actions of those that claim to hold those beliefs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian E &#8211; First, one of the 10 commandments says to not give false testimony. Thus if they are making a claim that this prayer rug (which itself has no scriptural logic behind it) can do something supernatural when it obviously does not, that person is giving false testimony. Thus my claim, that this is nothing but a scam and outside of Christianity, is quite obvious.</p>
<p>However, I would like to also point out the often confused situation that Christianity is hypocritical since it says you shouldn’t lie, but everyone (Christians included) do lie (or fill in any other sin). I guess the first thing to say is, yes all Christians are hypocrites…we all fail to do what Christianity says we are to do, but that isn’t the point of Christianity. Christianity is the acknowledging that we are sinful and thus asking and receiving forgiveness through Christ Jesus. I know writing that on an atheistic blog is probably just going to produce more ridicule, but that is the core belief of Christianity. For that reason those that claim to be Christian are actually stating that they are not perfect, sinful, and in need of forgiveness. Christianity offers two ways to heaven; (1) be perfect or (2) ask for forgiveness through Jesus. FYI – I don’t know anyone that is trying route (1) currently.</p>
<p>Now that you have challenged my statement let me challenge you’re logic. If I were to go on a killing spree in the name of atheism (one could picture me saying that since we are merely products of evolution it is vital to weed out the weak and strengthen our specie), would my actions then define atheistic principles? I certainly won’t hold you responsible for every action that someone holding to your beliefs does, so why do you do the same to me. Shouldn’t Christianity, atheism, and any other religion (atheism is a religion in the sense that it is a set of beliefs) only be held accountable for what the tenets of that faith claim and not the actions of those that claim to hold those beliefs?</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got one last week, but mine said the prayer mat had been &quot;anlointed.&quot;

Once I&#039;d read that, I held it by the edges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one last week, but mine said the prayer mat had been &#8220;anlointed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once I&#8217;d read that, I held it by the edges</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me this may just be another ploy to make people scared into religion. It is distasteful and inappropriate. 

Maybe you should send them something back along the lines of one of your friendly atheist bracelets. Maybe inform them they gave you a good topic for your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me this may just be another ploy to make people scared into religion. It is distasteful and inappropriate. </p>
<p>Maybe you should send them something back along the lines of one of your friendly atheist bracelets. Maybe inform them they gave you a good topic for your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got mine today!

I know it is tempting to mail rocks back to them, but remember- if they get government money (ala Focus on the Family) based on the amount of mail they get from people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got mine today!</p>
<p>I know it is tempting to mail rocks back to them, but remember- if they get government money (ala Focus on the Family) based on the amount of mail they get from people.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got this last week too.  First thing I did was try to find a phone # so I could call them and raise some hell.  Alas, no phone # anywhere.  One of the sites I found suggested filling the envelope and sending it back.  I didn&#039;t want to go to the post office so I didn&#039;t put a whole lot of stuff in.  I sent their crap back to them and then printed off some stuff I had about Sufism.  Maybe they might want to convert. If they do send me anything else I am going to fill a box with rocks and take it to the post office.  The envelope says they will pay the postage so I should be able to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got this last week too.  First thing I did was try to find a phone # so I could call them and raise some hell.  Alas, no phone # anywhere.  One of the sites I found suggested filling the envelope and sending it back.  I didn&#8217;t want to go to the post office so I didn&#8217;t put a whole lot of stuff in.  I sent their crap back to them and then printed off some stuff I had about Sufism.  Maybe they might want to convert. If they do send me anything else I am going to fill a box with rocks and take it to the post office.  The envelope says they will pay the postage so I should be able to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifurret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifurret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got one today too! Thankfully I wasn&#039;t as confused because I actually read this post before I got my mail. I actually felt sort of special.

I threw away everything but the Jesus poster. I figured I&#039;d do something creative with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one today too! Thankfully I wasn&#8217;t as confused because I actually read this post before I got my mail. I actually felt sort of special.</p>
<p>I threw away everything but the Jesus poster. I figured I&#8217;d do something creative with it.</p>
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