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		<title>By: mikespeir</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-164114</link>
		<dc:creator>mikespeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t doubt your sincere interest, TXAtheist.  (BTW, if &quot;TX&quot; stands for Texas, I&#039;m a Texan, too.)  But I&#039;m serious about not getting into it here.  Such discussions can&#039;t be constrained to large topics, but will always involve wandering across vast tracts of philosophical wilderness and quibbling over fine definitional distinctions.  Frankly, I&#039;d rather not grab hold of that tar baby in a venue like this.

However, that I happen to &lt;i&gt;lean&lt;/i&gt; toward conservatism is hardly as much as saying I embrace all that would like to fit itself under that umbrella.  One of the few radio stations I can receive well in my little town just happens to headline the likes of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity.  I sometimes listen to them when I&#039;m out and about, but usually end up gnashing my teeth.  (And, I&#039;ll point out, none of those guys are too happy with having to vote for John McCain.)

Googling &quot;Conservative Atheist&quot; will get you started if you care to head into that territory.  (There&#039;s even a site called The Conservative Atheist:  http://www.theatheistconservative.com/ )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt your sincere interest, TXAtheist.  (BTW, if &#8220;TX&#8221; stands for Texas, I&#8217;m a Texan, too.)  But I&#8217;m serious about not getting into it here.  Such discussions can&#8217;t be constrained to large topics, but will always involve wandering across vast tracts of philosophical wilderness and quibbling over fine definitional distinctions.  Frankly, I&#8217;d rather not grab hold of that tar baby in a venue like this.</p>
<p>However, that I happen to <i>lean</i> toward conservatism is hardly as much as saying I embrace all that would like to fit itself under that umbrella.  One of the few radio stations I can receive well in my little town just happens to headline the likes of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity.  I sometimes listen to them when I&#8217;m out and about, but usually end up gnashing my teeth.  (And, I&#8217;ll point out, none of those guys are too happy with having to vote for John McCain.)</p>
<p>Googling &#8220;Conservative Atheist&#8221; will get you started if you care to head into that territory.  (There&#8217;s even a site called The Conservative Atheist:  <a href="http://www.theatheistconservative.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatheistconservative.com/</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: TXatheist</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-164088</link>
		<dc:creator>TXatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike, I was wondering why though...my point is to understand why a few atheists vote conservative.   Rather than guess I just am trying to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike, I was wondering why though&#8230;my point is to understand why a few atheists vote conservative.   Rather than guess I just am trying to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think politics is much like religion in this respect:  people who are raised by conservatives tend to be the same; and people who are raised by liberals . . . Just like breaking out of religion, one has to challenge the politics they inherited.  It may be that they decide that they&#039;ll hold on to it, but that has to be an informed decision.  I was raised by religious conservatives--now I&#039;m an atheist liberal, and proud of it.  You conservatives are primitives in my view.  Sorry, you just don&#039;t have what it takes to think globally.  Atheist conservatives are problematic, like the Neocons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think politics is much like religion in this respect:  people who are raised by conservatives tend to be the same; and people who are raised by liberals . . . Just like breaking out of religion, one has to challenge the politics they inherited.  It may be that they decide that they&#8217;ll hold on to it, but that has to be an informed decision.  I was raised by religious conservatives&#8211;now I&#8217;m an atheist liberal, and proud of it.  You conservatives are primitives in my view.  Sorry, you just don&#8217;t have what it takes to think globally.  Atheist conservatives are problematic, like the Neocons.</p>
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		<title>By: Asylum Seeker</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-163996</link>
		<dc:creator>Asylum Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have a friend in Massachusetts who said just about everyone he knew was shocked to see the Mitt that emerged to run for president. He had been among the most liberal of republicans when he was governor of MA&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is pretty much true.  Of course, he still did the Republican lower taxes, increase budget deficit deal.  Aside from that, he seemed to have no problem with social issues, having no stated issue with abortion or gay marriage (or so he said, once upon a time).  But, yeah, this pandering to atheists is essentially pointless in my view.   Though, on the bright side, regardless of his motives, atheists are being pandered to!  As far as I am concerned, that is as good of a sign as any!  (I&#039;m being overly optimistic here, but that is privilege allowed to someone who expects the very worst of people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have a friend in Massachusetts who said just about everyone he knew was shocked to see the Mitt that emerged to run for president. He had been among the most liberal of republicans when he was governor of MA</p></blockquote>
<p>This is pretty much true.  Of course, he still did the Republican lower taxes, increase budget deficit deal.  Aside from that, he seemed to have no problem with social issues, having no stated issue with abortion or gay marriage (or so he said, once upon a time).  But, yeah, this pandering to atheists is essentially pointless in my view.   Though, on the bright side, regardless of his motives, atheists are being pandered to!  As far as I am concerned, that is as good of a sign as any!  (I&#8217;m being overly optimistic here, but that is privilege allowed to someone who expects the very worst of people).</p>
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		<title>By: mikespeir</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-163776</link>
		<dc:creator>mikespeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why are you supporting McCain over Hillary/Barack&quot;

Because I lean toward the conservative.  Nuff said.  I don&#039;t want to get into a debate either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why are you supporting McCain over Hillary/Barack&#8221;</p>
<p>Because I lean toward the conservative.  Nuff said.  I don&#8217;t want to get into a debate either.</p>
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		<title>By: TXatheist</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-163726</link>
		<dc:creator>TXatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikespeir,
Not wanting to argue but listen...why are you supporting McCain over Hillary/Barack.... feel free to email if you don&#039;t wish to post here.
md457@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikespeir,<br />
Not wanting to argue but listen&#8230;why are you supporting McCain over Hillary/Barack&#8230;. feel free to email if you don&#8217;t wish to post here.<br />
<a href="mailto:md457@hotmail.com">md457@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spurs Fan</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-163662</link>
		<dc:creator>Spurs Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fortunately it didn’t work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As an Obama supporter, I actually think this was &lt;em&gt;unfortunate&lt;/em&gt;.  No matter McCain&#039;s bad policies, his military-hero status will give him credibility.  Romney, had he been nominated by the Republicans, would have stood no chance against Obama or Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fortunately it didn’t work.</p></blockquote>
<p>As an Obama supporter, I actually think this was <em>unfortunate</em>.  No matter McCain&#8217;s bad policies, his military-hero status will give him credibility.  Romney, had he been nominated by the Republicans, would have stood no chance against Obama or Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: mikespeir</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-163656</link>
		<dc:creator>mikespeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rarely get any amens from fellow atheists when I say I plan to vote for McCain.  I will say this, though, if he chooses Romney or, worse, Huckabee as a running mate, the deal&#039;s off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely get any amens from fellow atheists when I say I plan to vote for McCain.  I will say this, though, if he chooses Romney or, worse, Huckabee as a running mate, the deal&#8217;s off!</p>
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		<title>By: TXatheist</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/11/i-still-wouldnt-have-voted-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-163628</link>
		<dc:creator>TXatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smell someone looking for moderate/independent votes as a McCain&#039;s VP and nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I smell someone looking for moderate/independent votes as a McCain&#8217;s VP and nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: V Profane</title>
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		<dc:creator>V Profane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just how stupid would any atheist have to be to vote for him even if he had have paid lip-service to them in his speech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just how stupid would any atheist have to be to vote for him even if he had have paid lip-service to them in his speech?</p>
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