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		<title>By: sabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cipher:  
        Apparently True Christians(tm) are only those Christians that troll on other blogs and insult the host.  I think Jesus may have mentioned that in the sermon on the mount. 
         ***To all reading, that was sarcasm; learn it, use it, love it.***</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cipher:<br />
        Apparently True Christians(tm) are only those Christians that troll on other blogs and insult the host.  I think Jesus may have mentioned that in the sermon on the mount.<br />
         ***To all reading, that was sarcasm; learn it, use it, love it.***</p>
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		<title>By: cipher</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/19/alabama-mayor-knows-how-to-fight-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-155215</link>
		<dc:creator>cipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Apparently you missed the part where christians spent a couple thousand years blaming the Jews for Jesus’ death and persecuting them for it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh! Oh! Can I say it? 

&quot;They weren&#039;t True Christians ™.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Apparently you missed the part where christians spent a couple thousand years blaming the Jews for Jesus’ death and persecuting them for it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh! Oh! Can I say it? </p>
<p>&#8220;They weren&#8217;t True Christians ™.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cautious</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/19/alabama-mayor-knows-how-to-fight-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-155092</link>
		<dc:creator>cautious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Christianity hating jews is absurd since Christianity was started by jews and Jesus was jewish in his human nature.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...since when has absurdity stopped people from hatred?  

Also, &lt;blockquote&gt;Good sarcastic humor should be based on at least a little truth. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is that why I was unable to find &lt;a href=&quot;http://sweetjazzycat2.blogspot.com/2008/04/church-of-darwin.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;  to be humorous in a sarcastic manner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Christianity hating jews is absurd since Christianity was started by jews and Jesus was jewish in his human nature.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;since when has absurdity stopped people from hatred?  </p>
<p>Also,<br />
<blockquote>Good sarcastic humor should be based on at least a little truth. </p></blockquote>
<p>Is that why I was unable to find <a href="http://sweetjazzycat2.blogspot.com/2008/04/church-of-darwin.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>  to be humorous in a sarcastic manner?</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazzy Cat said,
&lt;blockquote&gt;Christianity hating jews is absurd since Christianity was started by jews and Jesus was jewish in his human nature.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Apparently you missed the part where christians spent a couple thousand years blaming the Jews for Jesus&#039; death and persecuting them for it.  You are right that it&#039;s absurd, but that hasn&#039;t stopped them from doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazzy Cat said,</p>
<blockquote><p>Christianity hating jews is absurd since Christianity was started by jews and Jesus was jewish in his human nature.</p></blockquote>
<p> Apparently you missed the part where christians spent a couple thousand years blaming the Jews for Jesus&#8217; death and persecuting them for it.  You are right that it&#8217;s absurd, but that hasn&#8217;t stopped them from doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazzy Cat</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/19/alabama-mayor-knows-how-to-fight-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-155062</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazzy Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabrina,
From reading your explanation and other explanations I believe I do get it now.  Sarcasm is something that is common in this thread to those of us who cling to religion and probably our guns as well.  

your comment about hate may well be great sarcasm, but it is far from being a logical conclusion.  As a matter of fact it is so illogical that I missed the fact that it was great sarcasm.  Good sarcastic humor should be based on at least a little truth.  Christianity hating jews is absurd since Christianity was started by jews and Jesus was jewish in his human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabrina,<br />
From reading your explanation and other explanations I believe I do get it now.  Sarcasm is something that is common in this thread to those of us who cling to religion and probably our guns as well.  </p>
<p>your comment about hate may well be great sarcasm, but it is far from being a logical conclusion.  As a matter of fact it is so illogical that I missed the fact that it was great sarcasm.  Good sarcastic humor should be based on at least a little truth.  Christianity hating jews is absurd since Christianity was started by jews and Jesus was jewish in his human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: sabrina</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/19/alabama-mayor-knows-how-to-fight-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-155053</link>
		<dc:creator>sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, Buffy, that study obviously is not showing True Christians (tm).  So, there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, Buffy, that study obviously is not showing True Christians &#8482;.  So, there.</p>
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		<title>By: sabrina</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/19/alabama-mayor-knows-how-to-fight-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-155052</link>
		<dc:creator>sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;     Huh! How does your logic come up with that thinking? There are Jews that are Christians and Jesus was a jew in his human nature.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

   *head/desk*.  Okay, follow me on this one.
1.  The mayor said everything would be better if people followed Christ
2,  Jews don&#039;t follow Christ..hence they are not called Christians.  Jews that follow Christ are called Messianic Jews.  Jews that don&#039;t are called Jewish.
3.  If you are (regular?) Jewish, you obviously don&#039;t follow the teachings of Christ.  If this is blowing your mind, seriously, you need to read a book.  I&#039;m sorry, I&#039;m not being snarky, but come on.
4.  If the mayor believes morals comes from following Christ&#039;s teachings, ergo, people who don&#039;t follow the teachings of Christ are immoral, i.e. the Jews.
5.  It&#039;s called sarcasm, as well as following the logical conclusion.

Whew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>     Huh! How does your logic come up with that thinking? There are Jews that are Christians and Jesus was a jew in his human nature.</p></blockquote>
<p>   *head/desk*.  Okay, follow me on this one.<br />
1.  The mayor said everything would be better if people followed Christ<br />
2,  Jews don&#8217;t follow Christ..hence they are not called Christians.  Jews that follow Christ are called Messianic Jews.  Jews that don&#8217;t are called Jewish.<br />
3.  If you are (regular?) Jewish, you obviously don&#8217;t follow the teachings of Christ.  If this is blowing your mind, seriously, you need to read a book.  I&#8217;m sorry, I&#8217;m not being snarky, but come on.<br />
4.  If the mayor believes morals comes from following Christ&#8217;s teachings, ergo, people who don&#8217;t follow the teachings of Christ are immoral, i.e. the Jews.<br />
5.  It&#8217;s called sarcasm, as well as following the logical conclusion.</p>
<p>Whew.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/19/alabama-mayor-knows-how-to-fight-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-155049</link>
		<dc:creator>Buffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t suppose anybody would like to show &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/correlation-of-christian-ethics-social-ills-knocks-advocates-fromknees-to-backside/2005/10/03/1128191653994.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; to Mayor Langford. Here&#039;s an exerpt:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
A STRENGTHENING of religious faith is often raised as the answer to society&#039;s ills. Peter Costello has said, for example, &quot;that a recovery of faith would go a long way&quot; to solving many of our society&#039;s problems. ..
Many ordinary Australians share the belief that religious faith is an indicator of morality, and it is accepted wisdom that high rates of religious practice correlate with lower rates of crime, promiscuity and abortion.

However, a study published in the Journal of Religion and Society, an American academic journal, set out to test this hypothesis and found there is an inverse relationship between religiosity and public health and social stability. The study, &quot;Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies&quot;, compared social indicators such as murder rates, abortion, suicide and teenage pregnancy using data from the International Social Survey Program, Gallup and other research bodies...

A striking example of this is the US, which has the highest degrees of religious faith and the highest rates of homicide, abortion, STD infection and teenage pregnancy. The least religious countries - Japan, France and Scandinavia - have the lowest rates of violent crime, juvenile mortality and abortion...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t suppose anybody would like to show <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/correlation-of-christian-ethics-social-ills-knocks-advocates-fromknees-to-backside/2005/10/03/1128191653994.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a> to Mayor Langford. Here&#8217;s an exerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>
A STRENGTHENING of religious faith is often raised as the answer to society&#8217;s ills. Peter Costello has said, for example, &#8220;that a recovery of faith would go a long way&#8221; to solving many of our society&#8217;s problems. ..<br />
Many ordinary Australians share the belief that religious faith is an indicator of morality, and it is accepted wisdom that high rates of religious practice correlate with lower rates of crime, promiscuity and abortion.</p>
<p>However, a study published in the Journal of Religion and Society, an American academic journal, set out to test this hypothesis and found there is an inverse relationship between religiosity and public health and social stability. The study, &#8220;Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies&#8221;, compared social indicators such as murder rates, abortion, suicide and teenage pregnancy using data from the International Social Survey Program, Gallup and other research bodies&#8230;</p>
<p>A striking example of this is the US, which has the highest degrees of religious faith and the highest rates of homicide, abortion, STD infection and teenage pregnancy. The least religious countries &#8211; Japan, France and Scandinavia &#8211; have the lowest rates of violent crime, juvenile mortality and abortion&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Hemant Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hemant Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Man… Langford *really* hates Jews.”&lt;/em&gt;

It’s things like that that make the title of this site a joke. To believe in the deity of Christ means someone must hate Jews? That’s a red herring, a non sequitor, and probably three or four other logical fallacies. If a Christian said something like that you’d have it posted in three seconds as an example of how hypocritical and intolerant religious people are.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a joke.  Let me explain and kill it into the ground.  

Langford probably doesn&#039;t hate Jews.  He probably doesn&#039;t hate atheists, either.  But he&#039;s wrong in thinking that putting Christ first would lead to a decrease in crime and it was wrong for him to say that.  In effect, it cast blame for the crime problem on everyone who doesn&#039;t believe in Christ.

Hence, the sarcasm.

Get it...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>“Man… Langford *really* hates Jews.”</em></p>
<p>It’s things like that that make the title of this site a joke. To believe in the deity of Christ means someone must hate Jews? That’s a red herring, a non sequitor, and probably three or four other logical fallacies. If a Christian said something like that you’d have it posted in three seconds as an example of how hypocritical and intolerant religious people are.
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<p>It&#8217;s a joke.  Let me explain and kill it into the ground.  </p>
<p>Langford probably doesn&#8217;t hate Jews.  He probably doesn&#8217;t hate atheists, either.  But he&#8217;s wrong in thinking that putting Christ first would lead to a decrease in crime and it was wrong for him to say that.  In effect, it cast blame for the crime problem on everyone who doesn&#8217;t believe in Christ.</p>
<p>Hence, the sarcasm.</p>
<p>Get it&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as you carry a handgun and quote Ezekiel before shooting somebody, I can see that working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as you carry a handgun and quote Ezekiel before shooting somebody, I can see that working.</p>
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