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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149941</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that&#039;s what this was all about, Sam?  You decide (wrongly) that someone peed in your playground sandbox, and now you&#039;ve come to return the favor in his living room?  That&#039;s beyond childish, that&#039;s well into redneck territory. 

Although in your own mind you have no doubt made it into a holy war, your own personal jihad, where you can suck up to your god and score brownie points the easy way, taking on those evil internet atheists who just &lt;em&gt;won&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; be properly submissive. It also no doubt gives you a warm glow to be insulted by us, so you can tell yourself you are suffering for your faith in some sort of meaningful way.   

That&#039;s so much easier than actually doing any good in the world.  You have clearly chosen the most comfortable path to your heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that&#8217;s what this was all about, Sam?  You decide (wrongly) that someone peed in your playground sandbox, and now you&#8217;ve come to return the favor in his living room?  That&#8217;s beyond childish, that&#8217;s well into redneck territory. </p>
<p>Although in your own mind you have no doubt made it into a holy war, your own personal jihad, where you can suck up to your god and score brownie points the easy way, taking on those evil internet atheists who just <em>won&#8217;t</em> be properly submissive. It also no doubt gives you a warm glow to be insulted by us, so you can tell yourself you are suffering for your faith in some sort of meaningful way.   </p>
<p>That&#8217;s so much easier than actually doing any good in the world.  You have clearly chosen the most comfortable path to your heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: cautious</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149890</link>
		<dc:creator>cautious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

Firstly...to quote wiki, &quot;Reddit is a social news website on which users can post links to content on the web.&quot;  Hermant uses it to post links to content on his page.  I fail to see how that is spamming.  Maybe there&#039;s another link you could show us that actually shows him spamming?  

Secondly, most of your comments are spewing hatred or stupidity.  If you were attempting to shame anyone into changing their behavior, all you&#039;ve done is show us that you are just as capable of having no tact.  Just look at this thread, reread what you&#039;ve written, and try to argue that you, somehow, have the ethical high ground.  

Or is turning the other cheek for wimps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Firstly&#8230;to quote wiki, &#8220;Reddit is a social news website on which users can post links to content on the web.&#8221;  Hermant uses it to post links to content on his page.  I fail to see how that is spamming.  Maybe there&#8217;s another link you could show us that actually shows him spamming?  </p>
<p>Secondly, most of your comments are spewing hatred or stupidity.  If you were attempting to shame anyone into changing their behavior, all you&#8217;ve done is show us that you are just as capable of having no tact.  Just look at this thread, reread what you&#8217;ve written, and try to argue that you, somehow, have the ethical high ground.  </p>
<p>Or is turning the other cheek for wimps?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149773</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What part is a lie?  Look at your &lt;a href=&quot;http://reddit.com/user/Mpromptu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;history on Reddit&lt;/a&gt;.  Almost every post links to this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part is a lie?  Look at your <a href="http://reddit.com/user/Mpromptu/" rel="nofollow">history on Reddit</a>.  Almost every post links to this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Hemant Mehta</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149771</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemant Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hemant spams a forum that I frequent on another site, directing traffic here so he can hawk his book.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do?  That&#039;s a lie.  

I put some of my own posts on Digg/Reddit, but that&#039;s hardly spamming.  If no one likes the posts, the links go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hemant spams a forum that I frequent on another site, directing traffic here so he can hawk his book.</p></blockquote>
<p>I do?  That&#8217;s a lie.  </p>
<p>I put some of my own posts on Digg/Reddit, but that&#8217;s hardly spamming.  If no one likes the posts, the links go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149770</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are you here, Sam?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hemant spams a forum that I frequent on another site, directing traffic here so he can hawk his book.  I followed his link and ended up here.  Once I saw the hatred and stupidity being spewed here I spoke up about it.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Ha!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why are you here, Sam?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hemant spams a forum that I frequent on another site, directing traffic here so he can hawk his book.  I followed his link and ended up here.  Once I saw the hatred and stupidity being spewed here I spoke up about it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ha!</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149768</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Christy! I wish there were more like you here who get that, they seem to be in short supply. 

It was unfortunate that your first post ended up on the wrong thread, that may have been why you got the reception you did.  There is a lot of drive-by hit-and-run preaching that does end up here, and you may have been mistaken for one of those (or not, I can&#039;t really speak to the other person&#039;s reasons).  But that&#039;s clearly not what you are, so don&#039;t let it discourage you from further posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Christy! I wish there were more like you here who get that, they seem to be in short supply. </p>
<p>It was unfortunate that your first post ended up on the wrong thread, that may have been why you got the reception you did.  There is a lot of drive-by hit-and-run preaching that does end up here, and you may have been mistaken for one of those (or not, I can&#8217;t really speak to the other person&#8217;s reasons).  But that&#8217;s clearly not what you are, so don&#8217;t let it discourage you from further posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;we have been discussing the merits of those opinions&lt;/blockquote&gt; Ha!  You completely refuse to discuss ideas at all, ever, you only rant and insult. 

Why are you here, Sam?  This is the third time I&#039;ve asked you, don&#039;t you even know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam said: </p>
<blockquote><p>we have been discussing the merits of those opinions</p></blockquote>
<p> Ha!  You completely refuse to discuss ideas at all, ever, you only rant and insult. </p>
<p>Why are you here, Sam?  This is the third time I&#8217;ve asked you, don&#8217;t you even know?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149759</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christy,

Thank you for your comments.  I found your answers above insightful and you seem to be an bright person.
&lt;blockquote&gt;that is her right to feel and believe as she chooses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That seems obvious to me.  I think everybody here realizes that we&#039;ve got the right to our own opinions, but we have been discussing the merits of those opinions.  The Klan has the right to their own opinions too, but their opinions are flawed and hateful and there&#039;s nothing wrong with my saying so.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not the type of person who rolls up onto an atheist website to preach “hell fire and brimstone” or “to convert the heathen”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nor am I.  If you want to be an atheist, knock yourself out.  But it&#039;s wrong when people say things like &quot;what christians consider sacred is garbage&quot; and &quot;their god is simply loathsome&quot;.  As you say, they have every right to express their opinion, but their opinion is ignorant and hateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments.  I found your answers above insightful and you seem to be an bright person.</p>
<blockquote><p>that is her right to feel and believe as she chooses.</p></blockquote>
<p>That seems obvious to me.  I think everybody here realizes that we&#8217;ve got the right to our own opinions, but we have been discussing the merits of those opinions.  The Klan has the right to their own opinions too, but their opinions are flawed and hateful and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with my saying so.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not the type of person who rolls up onto an atheist website to preach “hell fire and brimstone” or “to convert the heathen”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nor am I.  If you want to be an atheist, knock yourself out.  But it&#8217;s wrong when people say things like &#8220;what christians consider sacred is garbage&#8221; and &#8220;their god is simply loathsome&#8221;.  As you say, they have every right to express their opinion, but their opinion is ignorant and hateful.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149737</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I appreciate that you are a Christian, however, I think that you&#039;re a *little* out of line here. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Very intelligent.

A hate site is a website that promotes hatred. This is a classic example of a hate site.

I didn’t mention “hate speech” at all. The term “hate speech” is a legal term that relates to limits on free speech. That is a very different topic.

    What christians (and muslims, etc) consider sacred is garbage. Their god is simply loathsome.

That is exactly what I am talking about. This entire site is dedicated to that type of hatred. This site exists so you can call people “stupid” and “blind” and say things like

    If your god existed and was nice, he would be so ashamed of you. He doesn’t, so you should just be ashamed of yourself.

Of course nobody is questioning your constitutional right to say those types of things, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t mean-spirited.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I  do not agree with the things Claire said, IE: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
What christians (and muslims, etc) consider sacred is garbage. Their god is simply loathsome.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;However, that is her right to feel and believe as she chooses&lt;/strong&gt;.  She or anyone on here isn&#039;t trying to *force* us to believe the way they do, they&#039;re simply stating the way the feel.  Just as when I answered questions earlier, I was simply stating how I feel and what I believe.  Someone left, what I considered to be, a somewhat snide comment in response.  That&#039;s fine.  It&#039;s their opinion and they have that right.  I may not agree with them, and they may not agree with me, but we&#039;re in the US.  We&#039;ve got that right.

Speaking of hate, there are PLENTY of hate sites in the name of Christ, Allah,  Mohammed-- the list goes on.  There is hate in every religion and/or lack there of.  It&#039;s not limited to the religion, just the ignorant who happen to belong to the religion. 

and thank you to, ansuzmannaz for in a way, standing up for me.  This is the third post that I&#039;ve *ever* posted here.  

I&#039;m not the type of person who rolls up onto an atheist website to preach &quot;hell fire and brimstone&quot; or &quot;to convert the heathen&quot;.  I do enjoy learning about other&#039;s beliefs and why they believe what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I appreciate that you are a Christian, however, I think that you&#8217;re a *little* out of line here. </p>
<blockquote><p>Very intelligent.</p>
<p>A hate site is a website that promotes hatred. This is a classic example of a hate site.</p>
<p>I didn’t mention “hate speech” at all. The term “hate speech” is a legal term that relates to limits on free speech. That is a very different topic.</p>
<p>    What christians (and muslims, etc) consider sacred is garbage. Their god is simply loathsome.</p>
<p>That is exactly what I am talking about. This entire site is dedicated to that type of hatred. This site exists so you can call people “stupid” and “blind” and say things like</p>
<p>    If your god existed and was nice, he would be so ashamed of you. He doesn’t, so you should just be ashamed of yourself.</p>
<p>Of course nobody is questioning your constitutional right to say those types of things, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t mean-spirited.</p></blockquote>
<p>I  do not agree with the things Claire said, IE: </p>
<blockquote><p>
What christians (and muslims, etc) consider sacred is garbage. Their god is simply loathsome.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>However, that is her right to feel and believe as she chooses</strong>.  She or anyone on here isn&#8217;t trying to *force* us to believe the way they do, they&#8217;re simply stating the way the feel.  Just as when I answered questions earlier, I was simply stating how I feel and what I believe.  Someone left, what I considered to be, a somewhat snide comment in response.  That&#8217;s fine.  It&#8217;s their opinion and they have that right.  I may not agree with them, and they may not agree with me, but we&#8217;re in the US.  We&#8217;ve got that right.</p>
<p>Speaking of hate, there are PLENTY of hate sites in the name of Christ, Allah,  Mohammed&#8211; the list goes on.  There is hate in every religion and/or lack there of.  It&#8217;s not limited to the religion, just the ignorant who happen to belong to the religion. </p>
<p>and thank you to, ansuzmannaz for in a way, standing up for me.  This is the third post that I&#8217;ve *ever* posted here.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the type of person who rolls up onto an atheist website to preach &#8220;hell fire and brimstone&#8221; or &#8220;to convert the heathen&#8221;.  I do enjoy learning about other&#8217;s beliefs and why they believe what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: cautious</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/04/05/jesus-curls/comment-page-1/#comment-149639</link>
		<dc:creator>cautious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are you here, aside from embarrassing all other christians?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It seems like Sam&#039;s self-appointed job is to tell a Friendly Atheist that atheism is not friendly, while telling the rest of us here that, apparently, &quot;being disgusted&quot; at certain aspects of religion is the same as hating religion.

Oh, and to every so often make a belittling comment about women and then never, ever, own up to making said comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why are you here, aside from embarrassing all other christians?</p></blockquote>
<p>It seems like Sam&#8217;s self-appointed job is to tell a Friendly Atheist that atheism is not friendly, while telling the rest of us here that, apparently, &#8220;being disgusted&#8221; at certain aspects of religion is the same as hating religion.</p>
<p>Oh, and to every so often make a belittling comment about women and then never, ever, own up to making said comments.</p>
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