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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Dangerous for Children To Know Atheism Exists, Says Illinois State Legislator</title>
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		<title>By: Elroc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elroc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course she is acting dramatically, its like she is screaming &quot;im NOT insane, I have believed this crazy story too long now to change my mind so you have to believe it too or I would have to admit my life has been a sham!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course she is acting dramatically, its like she is screaming &#8220;im NOT insane, I have believed this crazy story too long now to change my mind so you have to believe it too or I would have to admit my life has been a sham!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tfy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m atheist, and I kinda agree with Davis.  I mean, why not give them a moment of silence to pray and whatnot?  I mean, it&#039;s not like it hurts the atheist children.  But it does hurt the theist children, or at least the parents believe so.  Maybe we should ask the children what they want.  No one has done that.

I am so high right now.  hahaaa this song is amazing.  Animal Collective&#039;s last album, Merriweather Post Pavillion, is insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m atheist, and I kinda agree with Davis.  I mean, why not give them a moment of silence to pray and whatnot?  I mean, it&#8217;s not like it hurts the atheist children.  But it does hurt the theist children, or at least the parents believe so.  Maybe we should ask the children what they want.  No one has done that.</p>
<p>I am so high right now.  hahaaa this song is amazing.  Animal Collective&#8217;s last album, Merriweather Post Pavillion, is insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really like to label myself,who I am,Is who I&#039;m going to stay,I&#039;m not going to change for anyone,people expect me to share their beliefs,and if I don&#039;t I&#039;m going to hell,well guess what,how can I go to a place where I don&#039;t believe,but than again this is how I see it,I don&#039;t believe that up in the sky is heaven or in the ground is hell,I believe heaven and hell is right here in this world,in earth,bad things happen,good things happen,I think people just want to believe that when they die they are going to see angels and God,but how could they possibly know that,I believe in imagination,I make up my own world,where I&#039;m going to be when I die,and I think religious people are the same,except they take it to far,judging others who don&#039;t agree with them,I figure this was America where you have the right to speak freely yet it only depends on what you say,half of this world is run by Christians and other religions,this isn&#039;t America the free country anymore because America is about escaping from people who try control your every move and mind,once a child is born the parent choose what belief and religion the child should have,the child has no right to choose. what the adult says goes like the whole christianing and baptism ,how is that freedom,some religious people say it strict bounderies,yeah telling your child they have to believe something or you&#039;ll disown him/her,yeah that&#039;s love</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really like to label myself,who I am,Is who I&#8217;m going to stay,I&#8217;m not going to change for anyone,people expect me to share their beliefs,and if I don&#8217;t I&#8217;m going to hell,well guess what,how can I go to a place where I don&#8217;t believe,but than again this is how I see it,I don&#8217;t believe that up in the sky is heaven or in the ground is hell,I believe heaven and hell is right here in this world,in earth,bad things happen,good things happen,I think people just want to believe that when they die they are going to see angels and God,but how could they possibly know that,I believe in imagination,I make up my own world,where I&#8217;m going to be when I die,and I think religious people are the same,except they take it to far,judging others who don&#8217;t agree with them,I figure this was America where you have the right to speak freely yet it only depends on what you say,half of this world is run by Christians and other religions,this isn&#8217;t America the free country anymore because America is about escaping from people who try control your every move and mind,once a child is born the parent choose what belief and religion the child should have,the child has no right to choose. what the adult says goes like the whole christianing and baptism ,how is that freedom,some religious people say it strict bounderies,yeah telling your child they have to believe something or you&#8217;ll disown him/her,yeah that&#8217;s love</p>
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		<title>By: Bdox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bdox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to go back to Sam&#039;s question about the question of guns in school.

A good argument could be made that much more harm has been done by christinsanity in schools than has been done by guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to go back to Sam&#8217;s question about the question of guns in school.</p>
<p>A good argument could be made that much more harm has been done by christinsanity in schools than has been done by guns.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession.
-- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in &quot;Lincoln the Freethinker&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession.<br />
&#8211; Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in &#8220;Lincoln the Freethinker&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Leandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was about 8 years old and in Sunday School I was aware that it might be a farce without any outside influence-- my entire family was devout Catholic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was about 8 years old and in Sunday School I was aware that it might be a farce without any outside influence&#8211; my entire family was devout Catholic.</p>
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		<title>By: Killian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 01:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Lincoln an atheist? I believe I remember reading that in several places, which makes her &quot;State of Lincoln&quot; phrase a bit more amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Lincoln an atheist? I believe I remember reading that in several places, which makes her &#8220;State of Lincoln&#8221; phrase a bit more amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Holter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Holter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish to say everything Flonkbob just said.  So, ditto.

Also :

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m more than willing to listen and put your ideas to the test. And if you convince me, I’ll admit that you were right and I was wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wish the same were true of most Christians I know.  A precious few will engage in reasonable and rational debate, but the vast majority (in my experience) just plain aren&#039;t interested.  It&#039;s too scary to admit you may be wrong and be facing an eternity in a literal lake of fire.

And I say this as a former Christian who&#039;s entire family and circle of friends consists mainly of believers (though I don&#039;t classify myself as an atheist... I&#039;m kind of on the generic deist bent currently, but I&#039;m learning and exploring).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish to say everything Flonkbob just said.  So, ditto.</p>
<p>Also :</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m more than willing to listen and put your ideas to the test. And if you convince me, I’ll admit that you were right and I was wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wish the same were true of most Christians I know.  A precious few will engage in reasonable and rational debate, but the vast majority (in my experience) just plain aren&#8217;t interested.  It&#8217;s too scary to admit you may be wrong and be facing an eternity in a literal lake of fire.</p>
<p>And I say this as a former Christian who&#8217;s entire family and circle of friends consists mainly of believers (though I don&#8217;t classify myself as an atheist&#8230; I&#8217;m kind of on the generic deist bent currently, but I&#8217;m learning and exploring).</p>
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		<title>By: Flonkbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flonkbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leetamus, 

I&#039;m sorry that your experience doesn&#039;t seem to include any of the atheist&#039;s I know. 

In direct answer to your comment, however, I can say that I do know what I&#039;m talking about when I say that religion is bunk. I have read the Christian bible cover to cover at least seven times. I&#039;ve read the Mormon books once through. I&#039;ve tried to dig into the Koran, but it&#039;s very heavy going and painfully illogical and silly. I have an entire shelf in my home filled with various &#039;holy books&#039; of other faiths as well. 

So, thanks for your display of intolerance. But the fact is that very many of us have investigated religion quite closely, and found it wanting. There is not one bit of evidence that I&#039;ve found for the existence of god, and nothing that religion has suggested equals the ability to explain reality like science and rational thought. 

Of course if you have any evidence, anything at all that you think might convince those of us who do look at all claims with an open mind, please say so here. I&#039;m more than willing to listen and put your ideas to the test. And if you convince me, I&#039;ll admit that you were right and I was wrong. 

I think that&#039;s pretty fair. What do you say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leetamus, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that your experience doesn&#8217;t seem to include any of the atheist&#8217;s I know. </p>
<p>In direct answer to your comment, however, I can say that I do know what I&#8217;m talking about when I say that religion is bunk. I have read the Christian bible cover to cover at least seven times. I&#8217;ve read the Mormon books once through. I&#8217;ve tried to dig into the Koran, but it&#8217;s very heavy going and painfully illogical and silly. I have an entire shelf in my home filled with various &#8216;holy books&#8217; of other faiths as well. </p>
<p>So, thanks for your display of intolerance. But the fact is that very many of us have investigated religion quite closely, and found it wanting. There is not one bit of evidence that I&#8217;ve found for the existence of god, and nothing that religion has suggested equals the ability to explain reality like science and rational thought. </p>
<p>Of course if you have any evidence, anything at all that you think might convince those of us who do look at all claims with an open mind, please say so here. I&#8217;m more than willing to listen and put your ideas to the test. And if you convince me, I&#8217;ll admit that you were right and I was wrong. </p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s pretty fair. What do you say?</p>
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		<title>By: Siamang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siamang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Every atheist I know is entirely ignorant of religious topics. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then go talk to them.  Don&#039;t come trolling here.

You already have your mind made up about us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Every atheist I know is entirely ignorant of religious topics. </p></blockquote>
<p>Then go talk to them.  Don&#8217;t come trolling here.</p>
<p>You already have your mind made up about us.</p>
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