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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-148717</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That billboard was awesome. Whoever did it should be proud and start taking donations so we can raise money to put up more.  Those holy rollers have no problem when we have to to drive down the road and see &quot;God Listens, Talk To Him&quot;, signs, when all might not agree with that statement. Therefore, whoever put up the billboard great job! Let&#039;s do more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That billboard was awesome. Whoever did it should be proud and start taking donations so we can raise money to put up more.  Those holy rollers have no problem when we have to to drive down the road and see &#8220;God Listens, Talk To Him&#8221;, signs, when all might not agree with that statement. Therefore, whoever put up the billboard great job! Let&#8217;s do more!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147833</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike!

Yes...  You are quite right.  That&#039;s why you will make a difference in the world (hitting home runs), and I will be watching from the stands munching on hotdogs and cotton candy.  :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;despicable campaign tactics &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn&#039;t know there was any other kind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike!</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;  You are quite right.  That&#8217;s why you will make a difference in the world (hitting home runs), and I will be watching from the stands munching on hotdogs and cotton candy.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>despicable campaign tactics </p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know there was any other kind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeClawson</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147545</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeClawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just a thought about boycotting… Maybe I have no morals, maybe I’m oblivious, or maybe I just don’t care… Whatever the case, if the food is excellent and the service is good, I’m there regardless of what the owner’s religious or political views are (as long as they don’t promote hate and violence). I’d pay good money too. Yep. It’s all about the food. Life is too short to miss out. :-P&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I usually won&#039;t boycott something if it&#039;s just about my own personal self-righteousness and won&#039;t actually make any bit of difference. But when it comes to contributing my money to things I&#039;m against, I try not to. For instance, I won&#039;t buy Oberweis milk anymore since Jim Oberweis is running as the Republican candidate in my congressional district and I vehemently oppose his hard right and anti-immigrant positions, and because his despicable campaign tactics embody everything that is wrong with American politics these days. His company makes good milk, but I don&#039;t even want pennies of my money potentially finding their way into his campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just a thought about boycotting… Maybe I have no morals, maybe I’m oblivious, or maybe I just don’t care… Whatever the case, if the food is excellent and the service is good, I’m there regardless of what the owner’s religious or political views are (as long as they don’t promote hate and violence). I’d pay good money too. Yep. It’s all about the food. Life is too short to miss out. <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>I usually won&#8217;t boycott something if it&#8217;s just about my own personal self-righteousness and won&#8217;t actually make any bit of difference. But when it comes to contributing my money to things I&#8217;m against, I try not to. For instance, I won&#8217;t buy Oberweis milk anymore since Jim Oberweis is running as the Republican candidate in my congressional district and I vehemently oppose his hard right and anti-immigrant positions, and because his despicable campaign tactics embody everything that is wrong with American politics these days. His company makes good milk, but I don&#8217;t even want pennies of my money potentially finding their way into his campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147456</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey, Linda, welcome back! Haven’t seen you in a while, either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Hey&quot; right back at you, Claire!  Haven&#039;t found much time for blogging lately... :-(

Just a thought about boycotting...  Maybe I have no morals, maybe I&#039;m oblivious, or maybe I just don&#039;t care...  Whatever the case, if the food is excellent and the service is good, I&#039;m there regardless of what the owner&#039;s religious or political views are (as long as they don&#039;t promote hate and violence).  I&#039;d pay good money too.  Yep.  It&#039;s all about the food.  Life is too short to miss out.  :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey, Linda, welcome back! Haven’t seen you in a while, either.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Hey&#8221; right back at you, Claire!  Haven&#8217;t found much time for blogging lately&#8230; <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just a thought about boycotting&#8230;  Maybe I have no morals, maybe I&#8217;m oblivious, or maybe I just don&#8217;t care&#8230;  Whatever the case, if the food is excellent and the service is good, I&#8217;m there regardless of what the owner&#8217;s religious or political views are (as long as they don&#8217;t promote hate and violence).  I&#8217;d pay good money too.  Yep.  It&#8217;s all about the food.  Life is too short to miss out.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147392</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeClawson said:&lt;blockquote&gt;You can believe in free speech and still sometimes be offended at the things people freely say. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Free speech with me really goes right down to the bone (not claiming a big moral or character strength or anything, just pretty much how I&#039;ve always been): if it&#039;s ideas being attacked and not people, my first response is almost always a mild &quot;what a idiot&quot; and virtually never an offended &quot;how dare they say that&quot;.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;So again, if Hemant had posted about Christians putting up a billboard that read “Atheism is Stupid”, what would you be saying about those Christians right now?&lt;/blockquote&gt; I&#039;d be thinking &quot;what idiots&quot; but I wouldn&#039;t have felt strongly enough about it to bother to post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeClawson said:<br />
<blockquote>You can believe in free speech and still sometimes be offended at the things people freely say. </p></blockquote>
<p>Free speech with me really goes right down to the bone (not claiming a big moral or character strength or anything, just pretty much how I&#8217;ve always been): if it&#8217;s ideas being attacked and not people, my first response is almost always a mild &#8220;what a idiot&#8221; and virtually never an offended &#8220;how dare they say that&#8221;.  </p>
<blockquote><p>So again, if Hemant had posted about Christians putting up a billboard that read “Atheism is Stupid”, what would you be saying about those Christians right now?</p></blockquote>
<p> I&#8217;d be thinking &#8220;what idiots&#8221; but I wouldn&#8217;t have felt strongly enough about it to bother to post.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptigator</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147375</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general? Clearly what people did was jump to a conclusion and act from there. There are restaurants in town that I do not go to because of their outspoken support for things I don&#039;t agree with. 

Specifically, me? I&#039;d like to think I wouldn&#039;t do that. It&#039;s hard in this circumstance since I know a little bit about the billboard business and it is highly unlikely since most billboards like the one in the picture (steel/concrete footings, super high in the air) are owned by large media companies and not some restaurant owner who owns just one of them (the cost to file for and utlimately erect one, maintain it, sales staff, all of it, just doesn&#039;t pan out unless you have a lot of these signs). 
Unfortunately I have too much information to be the &quot;average Joe&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general? Clearly what people did was jump to a conclusion and act from there. There are restaurants in town that I do not go to because of their outspoken support for things I don&#8217;t agree with. </p>
<p>Specifically, me? I&#8217;d like to think I wouldn&#8217;t do that. It&#8217;s hard in this circumstance since I know a little bit about the billboard business and it is highly unlikely since most billboards like the one in the picture (steel/concrete footings, super high in the air) are owned by large media companies and not some restaurant owner who owns just one of them (the cost to file for and utlimately erect one, maintain it, sales staff, all of it, just doesn&#8217;t pan out unless you have a lot of these signs).<br />
Unfortunately I have too much information to be the &#8220;average Joe&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeClawson</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147372</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeClawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The difference is what would I do with that offense. Boycotting a nearby restaurant, no.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Even if you thought that the owners of the nearby restaurant were the ones who put it up? Would you want to patronize a place that had put up a sign saying &quot;Atheism is Stupid&quot;?

Of course you&#039;d want to find out for sure first whether they actually had, which I suspect is what many of those calls steve got were about. I&#039;d probably call and check too if I wanted to eat at that restaurant. I wouldn&#039;t want to patronize a place that put up either billboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The difference is what would I do with that offense. Boycotting a nearby restaurant, no.</p></blockquote>
<p>Even if you thought that the owners of the nearby restaurant were the ones who put it up? Would you want to patronize a place that had put up a sign saying &#8220;Atheism is Stupid&#8221;?</p>
<p>Of course you&#8217;d want to find out for sure first whether they actually had, which I suspect is what many of those calls steve got were about. I&#8217;d probably call and check too if I wanted to eat at that restaurant. I wouldn&#8217;t want to patronize a place that put up either billboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptigator</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147361</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be offended, just like the sign that asked why Atheists Hate America offended me. 

The difference is what would I do with that offense. Boycotting a nearby restaurant, no.  Protesting to have the sign taken down, no. 

It&#039;s what you do with that offense that can separate people.

@dzho

2 guys who know what they are doing can put one up professionally in half a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be offended, just like the sign that asked why Atheists Hate America offended me. </p>
<p>The difference is what would I do with that offense. Boycotting a nearby restaurant, no.  Protesting to have the sign taken down, no. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s what you do with that offense that can separate people.</p>
<p>@dzho</p>
<p>2 guys who know what they are doing can put one up professionally in half a day.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeClawson</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/30/blunt-billboard/comment-page-1/#comment-147358</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeClawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Honestly? I really wouldn’t have a problem with that. Free speech is for everybody, not just me. Sorry to disappoint you….&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure what free speech has to do with anything. I didn&#039;t ask whether you&#039;d want it to be banned or taken down, I asked whether you&#039;d be offended. You can believe in free speech and still sometimes be offended at the things people freely say. 

In fact, that&#039;s sort of the whole point of protecting free speech. You don&#039;t need to worry about protecting it if you always &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; what people have to say.

So again, if Hemant had posted about Christians putting up a billboard that read &quot;Atheism is Stupid&quot;, what would you be saying about those Christians right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Honestly? I really wouldn’t have a problem with that. Free speech is for everybody, not just me. Sorry to disappoint you….</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what free speech has to do with anything. I didn&#8217;t ask whether you&#8217;d want it to be banned or taken down, I asked whether you&#8217;d be offended. You can believe in free speech and still sometimes be offended at the things people freely say. </p>
<p>In fact, that&#8217;s sort of the whole point of protecting free speech. You don&#8217;t need to worry about protecting it if you always <em>like</em> what people have to say.</p>
<p>So again, if Hemant had posted about Christians putting up a billboard that read &#8220;Atheism is Stupid&#8221;, what would you be saying about those Christians right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard said &lt;blockquote&gt;I would be rioting in the streets with millions of other enraged, rabid atheists around the world, &lt;/blockquote&gt; Richard, thanks for both cracking me up and recalling me to my duty, and good to see a post from you.  I haven&#039;t touched a machete in years, hope I haven&#039;t lost my touch...

&quot;Death to the fidels&quot; indeed (snort!).

Hey, Linda, welcome back!  Haven&#039;t seen you in a while, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard said<br />
<blockquote>I would be rioting in the streets with millions of other enraged, rabid atheists around the world, </p></blockquote>
<p> Richard, thanks for both cracking me up and recalling me to my duty, and good to see a post from you.  I haven&#8217;t touched a machete in years, hope I haven&#8217;t lost my touch&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Death to the fidels&#8221; indeed (snort!).</p>
<p>Hey, Linda, welcome back!  Haven&#8217;t seen you in a while, either.</p>
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