Comments on: Pastor-in-Chief http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/ Atheism with Positivity Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:24:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: terri http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134847 terri Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:23:59 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134847 I agree with koz et. al. Having lived in a neighborhood with a lot of Farakan supporters, I can tell you that they have learned to keep their religious beliefs private when in public around "others". They work very hard to create and grow small businesses and improve the lives of black youth (although all are invited - if they know about it) through academic tutoring, mentoring, jobs, etc., all of which is in great need in some poor neighborhoods, and is a welcome service. However, it's kinda like missionaries in the desert; while they are teaching people to grow food and bringing them water works, they are also converting them with every breath they take, and they are quite accomplished at passing while doing it... I find Obama's consistent, repeated religious events more and more worrisome. I agree with koz et. al. Having lived in a neighborhood with a lot of Farakan supporters, I can tell you that they have learned to keep their religious beliefs private when in public around “others”. They work very hard to create and grow small businesses and improve the lives of black youth (although all are invited – if they know about it) through academic tutoring, mentoring, jobs, etc., all of which is in great need in some poor neighborhoods, and is a welcome service. However, it’s kinda like missionaries in the desert; while they are teaching people to grow food and bringing them water works, they are also converting them with every breath they take, and they are quite accomplished at passing while doing it…
I find Obama’s consistent, repeated religious events more and more worrisome.

]]> By: Aj http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134349 Aj Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:03:42 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134349 <blockquote>You'll learn the truth but it may take a while Because you're livin' in a world of denial</blockquote> -Joan Jett

You’ll learn the truth but it may take a while
Because you’re livin’ in a world of denial

-Joan Jett

]]> By: Mriana http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134319 Mriana Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:58:15 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134319 I saw this and found it VERY disturbing, not to mention, one of them NEEDS and education about the Constitution. It has survived this long and worked very well. It does NOT need "one iota" of it changed. Even this makes me a wee bit nervous about Obama, but I doubt he would violate the First Amendment, or at least hope he won't. I saw this and found it VERY disturbing, not to mention, one of them NEEDS and education about the Constitution. It has survived this long and worked very well. It does NOT need “one iota” of it changed.

Even this makes me a wee bit nervous about Obama, but I doubt he would violate the First Amendment, or at least hope he won’t.

]]> By: John Pritzlaff http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134294 John Pritzlaff Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:10:21 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134294 This video is too short and does not go into enough detail in my opinion. I'm surprised Romney's "Faith Speech" where he says "Freedom requires religion, religion requires freedom" wasn't included. This video is too short and does not go into enough detail in my opinion.

I’m surprised Romney’s “Faith Speech” where he says “Freedom requires religion, religion requires freedom” wasn’t included.

]]> By: Spurs Fan http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134285 Spurs Fan Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:57:36 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134285 <blockquote>I’m not sure why people keep trying to give Obama a pass on these things. He’s number 2 right behind Huck in the Jesus pandering. If Clinton or McCain was giving sermons and handing out pamphlets saying she was a “committed Christian” and proclaimed the “power of prayer” it would be used against them. Same rules apply.</blockquote> Leslie, I can't explain "power of prayer", nor the "prayer circle" remark he made in the Houston speech a couple of weeks ago, but claiming he's a Christian has been mostly in response to the oft-quoted cliam that he is a Muslim who swore on the Quran, etc. (I've received this false email a few times). So, in his defense, he's only bringing it up to point out the truth. That being said, this entire thing is somewhat offensive to Mulsims, and definitely most of us here who would like to see people swearing on a copy of the Constitution instead of sacred text. Can you imagine this debate in Turkey? Did you hear Prime minister Erdogan swore on the <em>Bible</em>!!!

I’m not sure why people keep trying to give Obama a pass on these things. He’s number 2 right behind Huck in the Jesus pandering. If Clinton or McCain was giving sermons and handing out pamphlets saying she was a “committed Christian” and proclaimed the “power of prayer” it would be used against them. Same rules apply.

Leslie,

I can’t explain “power of prayer”, nor the “prayer circle” remark he made in the Houston speech a couple of weeks ago, but claiming he’s a Christian has been mostly in response to the oft-quoted cliam that he is a Muslim who swore on the Quran, etc. (I’ve received this false email a few times). So, in his defense, he’s only bringing it up to point out the truth.

That being said, this entire thing is somewhat offensive to Mulsims, and definitely most of us here who would like to see people swearing on a copy of the Constitution instead of sacred text. Can you imagine this debate in Turkey? Did you hear Prime minister Erdogan swore on the Bible!!!

]]> By: Hillary Clinton: wins dead person’s endorsement « blueollie http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134276 Hillary Clinton: wins dead person’s endorsement « blueollie Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:37:29 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134276 [...] the person I got this video from explains: It’s a nice video, but the Barack Obama clips don’t belong there. Is he pandering? [...] [...] the person I got this video from explains: It’s a nice video, but the Barack Obama clips don’t belong there. Is he pandering? [...]

]]> By: koz http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134247 koz Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:42:47 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134247 Exactly what valhar2000 and Leslie said. I'm an Obama supporter, but I think you're in denial to claim that his comments didn't belong in there or that he isn't abusing religion. How is "using rhetoric to play to a crowd" any different than what the others are doing? Exactly what valhar2000 and Leslie said.

I’m an Obama supporter, but I think you’re in denial to claim that his comments didn’t belong in there or that he isn’t abusing religion. How is “using rhetoric to play to a crowd” any different than what the others are doing?

]]> By: stogoe http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134246 stogoe Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:41:34 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134246 <blockquote>The FSM just spoke to me in a gluten-inspired vision… and told me to give you all the message that what America really needs is a Pasta-in-chief.</blockquote> I heard that Al Dente won that election back in 2000.

The FSM just spoke to me in a gluten-inspired vision… and told me to give you all the message that what America really needs is a Pasta-in-chief.

I heard that Al Dente won that election back in 2000.

]]> By: Leslie http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134242 Leslie Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:19:51 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134242 I'm not sure why people keep trying to give Obama a pass on these things. He's number 2 right behind Huck in the Jesus pandering. If Clinton or McCain was giving sermons and handing out pamphlets saying she was a "committed Christian" and proclaimed the "power of prayer" it would be used against them. Same rules apply. I’m not sure why people keep trying to give Obama a pass on these things. He’s number 2 right behind Huck in the Jesus pandering. If Clinton or McCain was giving sermons and handing out pamphlets saying she was a “committed Christian” and proclaimed the “power of prayer” it would be used against them. Same rules apply.

]]> By: valhar2000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/comment-page-1/#comment-134212 valhar2000 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:31:22 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/27/pastor-in-chief/#comment-134212 Hemant, don't let your support for Obama blind you: he <em>is</em> a religious nut! However, he is the most benign of the weirdos available, and the other kooks are very dangerous, which is why it is essential to vote for him and against the other whackjobs. Hemant, don’t let your support for Obama blind you: he is a religious nut! However, he is the most benign of the weirdos available, and the other kooks are very dangerous, which is why it is essential to vote for him and against the other whackjobs.

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