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		<title>By: Atheists Do It On A Bus - Volconvo Debate Forums</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tried and the billboard company moved it due to their own religious beliefs. You can read about it here.    This launch of this campaign featured our various news channels here in the UK yesterday, as a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MoonliteSonata</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoonliteSonata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good gods, you&#039;d think John Lennon had never coined the phrase before, the way people have reacted to this. 
I didn&#039;t see anything offensive in the phrase, then or now. Religion- ALL RELIGIONS- has been the single most violent institution(s) ever created by mankind throughout our history, wasting more lives on the futile attempt to press the faith of the week on others than any political war ever did, and I for one would love to see it go by the wayside in favor of true spirituality, or lack thereof. 
Christians can sit and spew anger over what Muslims in certain parts of the world are doing now, but just a few hundred years ago, members of their own faith were torturing and killing tens of thousands across the world, too, for the same reason- Heresy. I suspect a few would like to take the members of this particular organization and &quot;reeducate&quot; them, even now in this so-called enlightened age. 
And really...So what if the FFRF meant to &quot;offend&quot;? Offense is a subjective thing, and can only be quantified by the so-called victim. I cannot be offended, because I CHOOSE not to take offense. If you choose to be offended, then it&#039;s your problem- Not the FFRF&#039;s, not mine, not the billboard company&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good gods, you&#8217;d think John Lennon had never coined the phrase before, the way people have reacted to this.<br />
I didn&#8217;t see anything offensive in the phrase, then or now. Religion- ALL RELIGIONS- has been the single most violent institution(s) ever created by mankind throughout our history, wasting more lives on the futile attempt to press the faith of the week on others than any political war ever did, and I for one would love to see it go by the wayside in favor of true spirituality, or lack thereof.<br />
Christians can sit and spew anger over what Muslims in certain parts of the world are doing now, but just a few hundred years ago, members of their own faith were torturing and killing tens of thousands across the world, too, for the same reason- Heresy. I suspect a few would like to take the members of this particular organization and &#8220;reeducate&#8221; them, even now in this so-called enlightened age.<br />
And really&#8230;So what if the FFRF meant to &#8220;offend&#8221;? Offense is a subjective thing, and can only be quantified by the so-called victim. I cannot be offended, because I CHOOSE not to take offense. If you choose to be offended, then it&#8217;s your problem- Not the FFRF&#8217;s, not mine, not the billboard company&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrick</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/09/atheist-billboard-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-256013</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a quick note....
i&#039;m pro-jesus but anti church.
as such, my sincere apologies for any blathering christians have fired toward any of you. 
my best friend, who currently questions all things religious, has been the best of influences when it came to search for truth...
nothing beats science and psychology, except for truth. and that is what i believe all honest people seek. 
i hope it is found by all, whether that is thru atheism, spirituality or wii games. 
experiences have taught me things that i cannot brush away. reasonable doubt cannot overcome. 
just keep being honest with yourselves, and as the &quot;anti-pot&quot; commercials encourage, live &quot; above the influence&quot;. thanks for the chance to share my heart:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a quick note&#8230;.<br />
i&#8217;m pro-jesus but anti church.<br />
as such, my sincere apologies for any blathering christians have fired toward any of you.<br />
my best friend, who currently questions all things religious, has been the best of influences when it came to search for truth&#8230;<br />
nothing beats science and psychology, except for truth. and that is what i believe all honest people seek.<br />
i hope it is found by all, whether that is thru atheism, spirituality or wii games.<br />
experiences have taught me things that i cannot brush away. reasonable doubt cannot overcome.<br />
just keep being honest with yourselves, and as the &#8220;anti-pot&#8221; commercials encourage, live &#8221; above the influence&#8221;. thanks for the chance to share my heart:)</p>
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		<title>By: c k</title>
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		<dc:creator>c k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m not sure what was so offensive about the FFRF’s bilboard. It merely posed a hypothetical. &quot;

I do not think you really believe this is not meant to be offensive.  The purpose of this board is to cause offense in others and provoke them to question their religion.

On my own note - From my experience I believe atheist persons see religious people as less intelligent and often want to offend them.  

Lack of an ability to communicate (which includes LISTENING and COMPREHENDING of both parts) between religious and atheists is the cause for our dysfunctions.  There is a compromise that can be achieved.

Believing in God myself, I can see how atheist can view religious people as well, idiots.  I know several!  They refuse to listen or accept scientific facts of how things work.  If they could perceive science as the study of how God created things to work they would be more understanding.

As far as atheists, I think they have been bludgeoned with &#039;religion&#039; so much they refuse to let themselves believe or they just see the idiots and don&#039;t want to be categorized with them.  It is not incomprehensible for there to be a higher power that created us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not sure what was so offensive about the FFRF’s bilboard. It merely posed a hypothetical. &#8221;</p>
<p>I do not think you really believe this is not meant to be offensive.  The purpose of this board is to cause offense in others and provoke them to question their religion.</p>
<p>On my own note &#8211; From my experience I believe atheist persons see religious people as less intelligent and often want to offend them.  </p>
<p>Lack of an ability to communicate (which includes LISTENING and COMPREHENDING of both parts) between religious and atheists is the cause for our dysfunctions.  There is a compromise that can be achieved.</p>
<p>Believing in God myself, I can see how atheist can view religious people as well, idiots.  I know several!  They refuse to listen or accept scientific facts of how things work.  If they could perceive science as the study of how God created things to work they would be more understanding.</p>
<p>As far as atheists, I think they have been bludgeoned with &#8216;religion&#8217; so much they refuse to let themselves believe or they just see the idiots and don&#8217;t want to be categorized with them.  It is not incomprehensible for there to be a higher power that created us.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think rader is right because the constitutoin does gives us freedom of speech which means we can esspesrr our feelings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think rader is right because the constitutoin does gives us freedom of speech which means we can esspesrr our feelings</p>
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		<title>By: Rigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that someday, people will become more rational thinkers, instead of basing so much on BELIEF.  I love the small stores that sell things of different religions, including christianity.  Cause when people walk into those stores, you know what you&#039;re getting into and there is no reason to boycott it, it&#039;s there and hopefully thriving because it is serving a large number of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that someday, people will become more rational thinkers, instead of basing so much on BELIEF.  I love the small stores that sell things of different religions, including christianity.  Cause when people walk into those stores, you know what you&#8217;re getting into and there is no reason to boycott it, it&#8217;s there and hopefully thriving because it is serving a large number of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Rader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The constitution gives us all a &quot;Freedom of Religion&quot;.  I want to know when the people of this country will READ the Constitution, and realize IT DOES NOT give you the right to not be offended.  Free Speech, Free Religion, Right to keep and bear arms.  Nothing about right to not be offended!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The constitution gives us all a &#8220;Freedom of Religion&#8221;.  I want to know when the people of this country will READ the Constitution, and realize IT DOES NOT give you the right to not be offended.  Free Speech, Free Religion, Right to keep and bear arms.  Nothing about right to not be offended!</p>
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		<title>By: JustLoveEm</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustLoveEm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;There’s really nothing we can do but wait until non-believers make up a sufficiently large portion of the country, and that’s probably not going to happen in any of our lifetimes.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Thank God for that.</description>
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<p>Thank God for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; Dueling Billboards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; Dueling Billboards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an atheist billboard was taken down and replaced with one reading “The previous sign posted at this location does not reflect the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Syckls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syckls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem here is that roughly 75% of this country is Christian.  Of those people, a very sizable portion have shown a consistent history of boycotting anything and everything that shows a hint of blasphemy or of somehow being opposed to Christianity.  When these people decide to boycott, the moderates are in a position where they can either maintain their virtues of equality and free speech or feel like they&#039;re doing something good for God by joining the boycott.  This amounts to businesses losing a large fraction of their sales, and forces them to appease the boycotters.  What can the non-believing population do about this?  Well, we could hope that someday they behave like we do every time we see another of those billboards signed by God, i.e. averting our eyes and grudgingly accepting their business, thereby allowing the billboard to stay up, while still maintaining our virtues of equality and free speech. Or, we could act like maniacs and possibly alienate a few people by vocally boycotting the business, and watch as the business loses a very small fraction of their sales and does nothing to gain them back.  Furthermore, the business will probably regain their lost sales twice over by the fundies who want to do something good for God by patronizing the business that those evil atheists hate so much.  There&#039;s really nothing we can do but wait until non-believers make up a sufficiently large portion of the country, and that&#039;s probably not going to happen in any of our lifetimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem here is that roughly 75% of this country is Christian.  Of those people, a very sizable portion have shown a consistent history of boycotting anything and everything that shows a hint of blasphemy or of somehow being opposed to Christianity.  When these people decide to boycott, the moderates are in a position where they can either maintain their virtues of equality and free speech or feel like they&#8217;re doing something good for God by joining the boycott.  This amounts to businesses losing a large fraction of their sales, and forces them to appease the boycotters.  What can the non-believing population do about this?  Well, we could hope that someday they behave like we do every time we see another of those billboards signed by God, i.e. averting our eyes and grudgingly accepting their business, thereby allowing the billboard to stay up, while still maintaining our virtues of equality and free speech. Or, we could act like maniacs and possibly alienate a few people by vocally boycotting the business, and watch as the business loses a very small fraction of their sales and does nothing to gain them back.  Furthermore, the business will probably regain their lost sales twice over by the fundies who want to do something good for God by patronizing the business that those evil atheists hate so much.  There&#8217;s really nothing we can do but wait until non-believers make up a sufficiently large portion of the country, and that&#8217;s probably not going to happen in any of our lifetimes.</p>
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