I am not familiar with Taylor Summer or that period of the Episcopal church in the US, so I can’t comment.

Certainly I am sure you can find plenty of racists associated with conservative Christian churches at that time, however, I will still insist that this was more a cultural hangover and entirely distinct from eugenics, which purported to be founded on science and whose advocates were typically university educated.

Thanks for the dialog.

Yes, Christians shared the same planet with Eugenicists,

They shared a lot more than a planet. Check out “Preaching Eugenics: Religious Leaders and the American Eugenics Movement” which discusses Protestant christian enthusiasm for eugenics.

Not that I expect this to convince you – the supposed link between atheism and eugenics (as well as the nonsense about atheism being a religion) is clearly a matter of belief to you, and therefore immune to reason.

Ash, places like Union Seminary were Christian in name only.

Ah, “not true Christians?”

But Looney, you cherry-picked just one church on that list. Are the Methodists not true christians either?

The Federated Church in Sterling is Methodist as well.

Andover Newton is Baptist.

And also mentioned is the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral of Saints Peter and Paul in Chicago.

I’m certain that these groups are all somehow not “True Christians,” right?

Eugenics was a university elitist phenomenon

Eugenics is an idea that has been around since, and perhaps before, Western civilization.

Countries that practiced eugenics in the 20th century include the United States, Germany, Canada, Australia, Sweden, Britain, Norway, France, Finland, Denmark, Switzerland. Are these not countries full of Christians?

Yes, Christians shared the same planet with Eugenicists, but I grew up with the phrase, “all men are created equal” drilled into my thick skull.

Christians were eugenicists, it was widely believed, including in Christian societies, that other “races” were not “men” at all. Slavery was readily accepted by Christians as well. There’s plenty of people who believe in Jesus and the Bible, and who are blatently, and unapologetically racist. They’re not hard to find, even now.

Yes, Christians shared the same planet with Eugenicists

Looney, are you trying to claim that no christians were involved with eugenic thinking?

google; “christian advocate eugenics”, first hit –

[from a photo dated 1925] This progressive New- England family is headed by Kenneth C. MacArthur, pastor of the Federated Church in Sterling Massachusetts, lecturer at Andover Newton Seminary, advocate for the Social Gospel, and spokesman for the American Eugenics Society…

…MacArthur’s enthusiasm for eugenics was no anomaly. It was shared by Harry F. Ward, professor of Christian ethics tit Union Theological Seminary from 1918 to 1941 and founder of the Methodist Federation for Social Service (1907), who in his article “Is Christian Morality Harmful, Over-Charitable to the Unfit?” (1928) encouraged Christians to help remove “the causes that produce the weak.” Walter Taylor Summer, dean of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral of Saints Peter and Paul in Chicago from 1906 to 1915, instituted in 1912 his own system of inspection for prospective couples to ensure that they were “normal physically and mentally.” John Haynes Holmes, Unitarian minister of New York’s Church of the Messiah, concurred (in 1913), encouraging his fellow members of the Liberal Ministers” Association of New York “to perform nothing but health marriages.”

i would dearly love to know what a “tit Union” is…

I forget, are educated people good or bad? Who are we demonizing this election cycle, the smart people or the poor people?

What book of the bible said that?

Eugenics was a university elitist phenomenon (you might want to check out Karl Pearson and related links). In Europe, intellectual Christianity was dropped at the end of the 18th century. The process was delayed a century in the US. Yes, Christians shared the same planet with Eugenicists, but I grew up with the phrase, “all men are created equal” drilled into my thick skull.