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		<title>By: Aj</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122989</link>
		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J. J. Ramsey,

&lt;blockquote&gt;But saying “Don’t feed the troll” on a thread would be considered a violation of that stated restriction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have it ambiguous and general, not targeted at specific persons.

e.g.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you think this person is trolling then don&#039;t feed them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. J. Ramsey,</p>
<blockquote><p>But saying “Don’t feed the troll” on a thread would be considered a violation of that stated restriction.</p></blockquote>
<p>Have it ambiguous and general, not targeted at specific persons.</p>
<p>e.g.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you think this person is trolling then don&#8217;t feed them.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: J. J. Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122912</link>
		<dc:creator>J. J. Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ: &quot;I thinking calling people a troll should be restricted, it can be a form of abuse. Telling people not to feed trolls is the best way to stop trolling.&quot;

But saying &quot;Don&#039;t feed the troll&quot; on a thread would be considered a violation of that stated restriction.

In general, I see any restriction that keeps one from calling a spade a spade to be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ: &#8220;I thinking calling people a troll should be restricted, it can be a form of abuse. Telling people not to feed trolls is the best way to stop trolling.&#8221;</p>
<p>But saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t feed the troll&#8221; on a thread would be considered a violation of that stated restriction.</p>
<p>In general, I see any restriction that keeps one from calling a spade a spade to be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: PrimateIR</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122758</link>
		<dc:creator>PrimateIR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*groan* 

All this stuff will evolve after the forum is in place!  Let&#039;s not drown in analysis paralysis.

How many more miles til this thing is up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*groan* </p>
<p>All this stuff will evolve after the forum is in place!  Let&#8217;s not drown in analysis paralysis.</p>
<p>How many more miles til this thing is up?</p>
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		<title>By: Aj</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122748</link>
		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can moderate, I&#039;m pretty fanatical about freedom of speech so the ban hammer will get rather rusty.

I agree that there shouldn&#039;t be a ban on calling people dishonest, but try to imply it instead, and show the evidence. 

I thinking calling people a troll should be restricted, it can be a form of abuse. Telling people not to feed trolls is the best way to stop trolling. Most forums have an ignore feature for a reason.

Have separate forums for different topics is a must,. Having a &quot;flamebait&quot; forum that&#039;s not moderated (apart from spam) and placing &quot;hot&quot; threads in there is a good idea. You don&#039;t want to stifle rigorous discussion (unless you do), but you don&#039;t want pointless squabbles either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can moderate, I&#8217;m pretty fanatical about freedom of speech so the ban hammer will get rather rusty.</p>
<p>I agree that there shouldn&#8217;t be a ban on calling people dishonest, but try to imply it instead, and show the evidence. </p>
<p>I thinking calling people a troll should be restricted, it can be a form of abuse. Telling people not to feed trolls is the best way to stop trolling. Most forums have an ignore feature for a reason.</p>
<p>Have separate forums for different topics is a must,. Having a &#8220;flamebait&#8221; forum that&#8217;s not moderated (apart from spam) and placing &#8220;hot&#8221; threads in there is a good idea. You don&#8217;t want to stifle rigorous discussion (unless you do), but you don&#8217;t want pointless squabbles either.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122708</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbrainedwashed, phpbb has a link you can click on to retrieve all new posts since you last logged in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbrainedwashed, phpbb has a link you can click on to retrieve all new posts since you last logged in.</p>
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		<title>By: The Unbrainwashed</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122704</link>
		<dc:creator>The Unbrainwashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The message board should also include (probably as a front page) a list of the 10-15 most recently posted on threads.  This will allow a reader to go to the threads where people are actively participating instead of clicking through all the different general topics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message board should also include (probably as a front page) a list of the 10-15 most recently posted on threads.  This will allow a reader to go to the threads where people are actively participating instead of clicking through all the different general topics.</p>
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		<title>By: J. J. Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122693</link>
		<dc:creator>J. J. Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing, though. On the IIDB, accusing someone of being a troll or being dishonest is considered a breach of the rules, and IMHO, this is a misfeature that makes it more difficult to point out when someone is cooking the evidence, e.g., quote mining. That&#039;s one misfeature that should not be reproduced on the new forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing, though. On the IIDB, accusing someone of being a troll or being dishonest is considered a breach of the rules, and IMHO, this is a misfeature that makes it more difficult to point out when someone is cooking the evidence, e.g., quote mining. That&#8217;s one misfeature that should not be reproduced on the new forums.</p>
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		<title>By: J. J. Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122686</link>
		<dc:creator>J. J. Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest using rules for forum conduct similar to those on the JREF forums or IIDB, which seem to work okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest using rules for forum conduct similar to those on the JREF forums or IIDB, which seem to work okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122670</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve moderated a somewhat large board in the past, and would be happy to lend my assistance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve moderated a somewhat large board in the past, and would be happy to lend my assistance!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/02/message-board-is-almost-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122638</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a long time forum rat and I don&#039;t know if enforcing friendliness is a very good idea. In my experience the more rules a forum has the more &quot;forum drama&quot; occurs and consumes the message board.

I recommend a small set of core principals and an open moderator/member discussion of standards and decisions. There certainly should be a section for discussion of how the board should be run where anyone can post suggestions or questions of the moderators and admin. Don&#039;t want to follow the IIDB model, in other words. ;-)

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a long time forum rat and I don&#8217;t know if enforcing friendliness is a very good idea. In my experience the more rules a forum has the more &#8220;forum drama&#8221; occurs and consumes the message board.</p>
<p>I recommend a small set of core principals and an open moderator/member discussion of standards and decisions. There certainly should be a section for discussion of how the board should be run where anyone can post suggestions or questions of the moderators and admin. Don&#8217;t want to follow the IIDB model, in other words. <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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