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		<title>By: shawn lovejoy</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/01/i-guess-they-dont-want-me-to-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-122514</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn lovejoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link and the thoughts on my sign. I LOVE YOUR BLOG! Actually sounds like we think a lot alike! My goal in life is changing the way people think about church by doing it differently than my colleagues with the sign. STAY IN TOUCH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link and the thoughts on my sign. I LOVE YOUR BLOG! Actually sounds like we think a lot alike! My goal in life is changing the way people think about church by doing it differently than my colleagues with the sign. STAY IN TOUCH!</p>
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		<title>By: JeffN</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/01/i-guess-they-dont-want-me-to-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-122492</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all churches are created equal. I have been to some where  they would give you the shirt off there backs to help you and I have been to others where you would find more  camaraderie in a bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all churches are created equal. I have been to some where  they would give you the shirt off there backs to help you and I have been to others where you would find more  camaraderie in a bar.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeClawson</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/01/i-guess-they-dont-want-me-to-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-122151</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeClawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was this sign from a shared parking lot? A church I used to attend had a separate office building (they had their worship services in a local school) that shared a &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; small parking lot with about three other businesses. Every business got a few designated spots in the lot and each of them had a sign like this so that non-customers or staff from the other businesses would know not to park there. The church had these signs too so that at least a few spots would remain open so the church office staff wouldn&#039;t have to park in the metered spots on the street all day long. They weren&#039;t trying to be exclusive, it was just logistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was this sign from a shared parking lot? A church I used to attend had a separate office building (they had their worship services in a local school) that shared a <em>very</em> small parking lot with about three other businesses. Every business got a few designated spots in the lot and each of them had a sign like this so that non-customers or staff from the other businesses would know not to park there. The church had these signs too so that at least a few spots would remain open so the church office staff wouldn&#8217;t have to park in the metered spots on the street all day long. They weren&#8217;t trying to be exclusive, it was just logistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/02/01/i-guess-they-dont-want-me-to-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-122035</link>
		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This picture got me thinking: What are the things our church is doing that says: “Church Members ONLY” or “Outsiders Unwelcome?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One doesn&#039;t have to have a sign to say certain people are not welcome- members or otherwise.  Behaviour and words between two members in front of the one not welcome can do it too.

I remember one incident that took place about a year ago, during the ice storm.  Although I just barely attended (maybe once or twice a year at best by that time) I needed a place with heat because my power went out.  My older son stayed else where and I think I understand now.  My younger son was in treatment for behaviours at the time.

Right on the phone, the person I was staying with said to the priest, &quot;I know.  If Joseph were with her, I couldn&#039;t have put her up.  No one could.&quot;

Translation:  If she had her autistic son, the two of them could have froze to death in the ice.

So, much for love and compassion.  I didn&#039;t go back to church and I haven&#039;t spoken to any of them since then.  My younger son isn&#039;t as awful as they make him out to be either.  OK yes, I had to get him more help than I was able to give him, but I thought is was cruel to talk about people like that, esp in front of them.  To be so uncaring about a person with a mental illness or what have you, to the point you&#039;d let them freeze to death after a State disaster, is inhumane.  :(  They could have helped us get into a shelter or something.  OR were they afraid they&#039;d be sicking a rabid dog on the other people who lost heat and electricity in their homes after that disaster?

Obviously, my family was not welcome and now I understand why my older son chose not to stay with me.  I have no plans to return either, not even for help in a disaster.  Wonder if the Wiccan member, who kept it hush-hush that he was Wiccan, told everyone I am a Humanist while he was at it?  I never devulged his secret to those at church, but I suspect he eventually did mine, which is a bit unfair, IMO.  I put up with his Wiccan superstitions, Wiccan symbols, and alike, not to mention all the saintly icons, for a freaking week and never complained once, devulged his little secret, or said he was a superstitious boob, yet I that&#039;s the treatment I got before it was all over.

Nice welcome mat sign they all have.  :roll:  Even so, I&#039;m not going to go up to the church and tell them that said member knows the saints are just pagan gods and that he claims to be a Warlock.  What good would it serve me?  They already shut me out anyway and for all I know, they&#039;d probably throw in my face that since I don&#039;t believe, I was just using them for social time.  I can find that else where though and probably where my family and me would be more welcomed too.  More than likely with other Humanists, IF I could find them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This picture got me thinking: What are the things our church is doing that says: “Church Members ONLY” or “Outsiders Unwelcome?”</p></blockquote>
<p>One doesn&#8217;t have to have a sign to say certain people are not welcome- members or otherwise.  Behaviour and words between two members in front of the one not welcome can do it too.</p>
<p>I remember one incident that took place about a year ago, during the ice storm.  Although I just barely attended (maybe once or twice a year at best by that time) I needed a place with heat because my power went out.  My older son stayed else where and I think I understand now.  My younger son was in treatment for behaviours at the time.</p>
<p>Right on the phone, the person I was staying with said to the priest, &#8220;I know.  If Joseph were with her, I couldn&#8217;t have put her up.  No one could.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:  If she had her autistic son, the two of them could have froze to death in the ice.</p>
<p>So, much for love and compassion.  I didn&#8217;t go back to church and I haven&#8217;t spoken to any of them since then.  My younger son isn&#8217;t as awful as they make him out to be either.  OK yes, I had to get him more help than I was able to give him, but I thought is was cruel to talk about people like that, esp in front of them.  To be so uncaring about a person with a mental illness or what have you, to the point you&#8217;d let them freeze to death after a State disaster, is inhumane.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   They could have helped us get into a shelter or something.  OR were they afraid they&#8217;d be sicking a rabid dog on the other people who lost heat and electricity in their homes after that disaster?</p>
<p>Obviously, my family was not welcome and now I understand why my older son chose not to stay with me.  I have no plans to return either, not even for help in a disaster.  Wonder if the Wiccan member, who kept it hush-hush that he was Wiccan, told everyone I am a Humanist while he was at it?  I never devulged his secret to those at church, but I suspect he eventually did mine, which is a bit unfair, IMO.  I put up with his Wiccan superstitions, Wiccan symbols, and alike, not to mention all the saintly icons, for a freaking week and never complained once, devulged his little secret, or said he was a superstitious boob, yet I that&#8217;s the treatment I got before it was all over.</p>
<p>Nice welcome mat sign they all have.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   Even so, I&#8217;m not going to go up to the church and tell them that said member knows the saints are just pagan gods and that he claims to be a Warlock.  What good would it serve me?  They already shut me out anyway and for all I know, they&#8217;d probably throw in my face that since I don&#8217;t believe, I was just using them for social time.  I can find that else where though and probably where my family and me would be more welcomed too.  More than likely with other Humanists, IF I could find them.</p>
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		<title>By: severalspeciesof</title>
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		<dc:creator>severalspeciesof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s ironic is that the pastor should pose that question to God, not the church. (Maybe ironic isn&#039;t the proper term here, but I think you can catch my drift)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s ironic is that the pastor should pose that question to God, not the church. (Maybe ironic isn&#8217;t the proper term here, but I think you can catch my drift)</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might be willing to go to church if the paster was the Rev. Lovejoy.  That would be awesome.   

Also, if I was the church, I would probably make the sign say, &quot;Member parking only.  All others will be sent to Hell.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be willing to go to church if the paster was the Rev. Lovejoy.  That would be awesome.   </p>
<p>Also, if I was the church, I would probably make the sign say, &#8220;Member parking only.  All others will be sent to Hell.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, but don&#039;t you now want to join that church so you too can park there?  
Membership has its privileges!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, but don&#8217;t you now want to join that church so you too can park there?<br />
Membership has its privileges!!!</p>
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