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		<title>By: Atheist Discrimination Then and Now &#171; ZackFord Blogs</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-349481</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheist Discrimination Then and Now &#171; ZackFord Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ruling was reversed (hat tip: Hemant Mehta), and the family lived presumably happily ever after. But think about what was happening at this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lexi</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-145343</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it that Christian parents are favored over atheists in a divorce?  Especially in light of things like this: http://www.twincities.com/wisconsin/ci_8697040?nclick_check=1

She died because her only &quot;treatment&quot; for illness was PRAYER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it that Christian parents are favored over atheists in a divorce?  Especially in light of things like this: <a href="http://www.twincities.com/wisconsin/ci_8697040?nclick_check=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.twincities.com/wisconsin/ci_8697040?nclick_check=1</a></p>
<p>She died because her only &#8220;treatment&#8221; for illness was PRAYER.</p>
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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; 2008 &#187; February &#187; 13</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-127907</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; 2008 &#187; February &#187; 13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NYT article didn&#8217;t mention anything about atheist parent/religious parent custody cases, but I would assume that battle will also be playing out more in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; A Concerned Atheist Parent</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-110575</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; A Concerned Atheist Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading the Time magazine article (from 1970) and perhaps seeing the comments made in the blogosphere, Jeremy is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-110494</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There apparently were cases in Europe in the 19th century where some children were forcibly removed from non-Christian households and put in foster care so they could be brought up Christian… (or am I victim of an urban legend?)…&lt;/blockquote&gt;


That might have been at least one of the reasons that aboriginal children were taken from their families in the Australian outback and raised by white, Christian families in the cities. I&#039;m not sure how much religious belief was a factor in those cases. 

But I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve read of some cases of Jewish children being taken to be raised by Catholics in Spain, for instance, and of Jews who converted forcibly and later hid their Jewish backgrounds. In fact, there have been a couple of high profile cases of this, among them Madeline Albright, secretary of state under Clinton. Her parents were Czechs who converted to avoid persecution and raised her Catholic. The Virginia senator George Allen, of &quot;macaca&quot; fame, also had a Jewish mother who was afraid to be identified as a Jew and either converted or hid her background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There apparently were cases in Europe in the 19th century where some children were forcibly removed from non-Christian households and put in foster care so they could be brought up Christian… (or am I victim of an urban legend?)…</p></blockquote>
<p>That might have been at least one of the reasons that aboriginal children were taken from their families in the Australian outback and raised by white, Christian families in the cities. I&#8217;m not sure how much religious belief was a factor in those cases. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve read of some cases of Jewish children being taken to be raised by Catholics in Spain, for instance, and of Jews who converted forcibly and later hid their Jewish backgrounds. In fact, there have been a couple of high profile cases of this, among them Madeline Albright, secretary of state under Clinton. Her parents were Czechs who converted to avoid persecution and raised her Catholic. The Virginia senator George Allen, of &#8220;macaca&#8221; fame, also had a Jewish mother who was afraid to be identified as a Jew and either converted or hid her background.</p>
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		<title>By: Spanish Inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-110439</link>
		<dc:creator>Spanish Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an attorney who handles custody cases, I would have to agree that the case, as related, needs more scrutiny. If the facts were so one-sided, I can&#039;t see many Judges, save an overt, rabid fundamentalist (and they do exist in the judiciary - remember Judge Moore?) taking the position that a drunk driving, wife abusing father should have custody over an atheist mother. There had to be some other negative factors on the mother&#039;s side. Perhaps the story is related by her side, and she&#039;s simply emphasizing the religious angle, to deflect attention from the other problems with the case.

Or perhaps the Judge actually is a rabid fundamentalist. 

The nice thing, as Hemant notes happened in New Jersey, is that the appellate courts are more reliable, and more intellectually rigorous in their application of the law. You can get some strange decisions, mostly anomalies, at the trial level, but the higher courts tend to even things out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an attorney who handles custody cases, I would have to agree that the case, as related, needs more scrutiny. If the facts were so one-sided, I can&#8217;t see many Judges, save an overt, rabid fundamentalist (and they do exist in the judiciary &#8211; remember Judge Moore?) taking the position that a drunk driving, wife abusing father should have custody over an atheist mother. There had to be some other negative factors on the mother&#8217;s side. Perhaps the story is related by her side, and she&#8217;s simply emphasizing the religious angle, to deflect attention from the other problems with the case.</p>
<p>Or perhaps the Judge actually is a rabid fundamentalist. </p>
<p>The nice thing, as Hemant notes happened in New Jersey, is that the appellate courts are more reliable, and more intellectually rigorous in their application of the law. You can get some strange decisions, mostly anomalies, at the trial level, but the higher courts tend to even things out.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-110438</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikers.  I was a little afraid of stuff like this when I was considering adoption.  There are so many private, religious adoption agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikers.  I was a little afraid of stuff like this when I was considering adoption.  There are so many private, religious adoption agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: CelticBear&#8217;s Musings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2008</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-110415</link>
		<dc:creator>CelticBear&#8217;s Musings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] denied custody of their adopted daughter because they don&#8217;t believe in a Supreme Being: ? Atheism and Custody Cases In an extraordinary decision, Judge [William] Camarata denied the Burkes’ right to the child [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] denied custody of their adopted daughter because they don&#8217;t believe in a Supreme Being: ? Atheism and Custody Cases In an extraordinary decision, Judge [William] Camarata denied the Burkes’ right to the child [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph R.</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-110390</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also skeptical of this. I need to see more evidence in support of the story. It just doesn&#039;t sound plausible. There has to be more to the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also skeptical of this. I need to see more evidence in support of the story. It just doesn&#8217;t sound plausible. There has to be more to the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptigator</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/02/atheism-and-custody-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-110375</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand who he is and I agree with and respect him on many, many, many things but I&#039;m not going to grab my pitchfork until I see some evidence. We atheists haven&#039;t had an opportunity to have a good angry mobbing for awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand who he is and I agree with and respect him on many, many, many things but I&#8217;m not going to grab my pitchfork until I see some evidence. We atheists haven&#8217;t had an opportunity to have a good angry mobbing for awhile.</p>
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