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		<title>By: Wise Divides, Foolish Unities &#124; Pax Nortona - A Blog by Joel Sax</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/12/20/rational-response-squad-defends-its-aggressive-tactics/comment-page-3/#comment-300109</link>
		<dc:creator>Wise Divides, Foolish Unities &#124; Pax Nortona - A Blog by Joel Sax</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] here, they attack it as the sign that Christianity is about to fall apart and they will triumph as Hemant from Friendly Atheist does here: We’re still at a point when the “leaders” in both camps are on speaking terms and can work [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kieran Bennett &#187; Assignment Update: Deconverting Christians</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran Bennett &#187; Assignment Update: Deconverting Christians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 05:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hemant Mehta of Friendly Atheist and Brian Sapient of the Rational Response Squad have had a bit of back and forth on precisely this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Calling yourself &#8220;rational&#8221; might not make it so &#171; Breaking Spells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calling yourself &#8220;rational&#8221; might not make it so &#171; Breaking Spells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mehta, a.k.a. The Friendly Atheist, had a couple of blog posts that were critical of the RRS and their &#8220;aggressive tactics.&#8221; He compared and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Clawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Clawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey guys. My name is Renee from Illinois. HI MIKE…yes it is me, renee from that coffee shop you worked at &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey Renee! Good to hear from you. I didn&#039;t know you were into these kind of conversations. You should have said something. I hope me being a pastor didn&#039;t put you off bringing it up. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey guys. My name is Renee from Illinois. HI MIKE…yes it is me, renee from that coffee shop you worked at </p></blockquote>
<p>Hey Renee! Good to hear from you. I didn&#8217;t know you were into these kind of conversations. You should have said something. I hope me being a pastor didn&#8217;t put you off bringing it up. <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria is right.  I have nothing to do with any lawsuit- what they did not like was that I disagreed with Rookie about there being no historical Jesus and that it was just re-written myth.  That and I also called him a Fundie.  :lol:

No, I never did get a letter about it and the first I knew of it was when I wanted to rebuttle Brian on his blog and found I was not allowed to do so.  They do not want anyone to disagree with them on anything, when they are just a bunch of young know-nothings.  They never said one word to me about being actually banned.  They threatened it and I quit posting for a while, then this crap and THAT&#039;S how I found out I was banned.  I really don&#039;t care, because I can get my say in other ways.

Bob hasn&#039;t ever mentioned the RRS, so I have doubts about him being involved with them.  Yes, he has them as friends on his MySpace deal, but I doubt he knows what they are about.  He doesn&#039;t have time to mess around with the net too much and add to that, Rookie had no knowledge that Bob writes about the relationship to Mithra and alike, as well as talked about the parallel myths on a Minnesota Atheist podcast.  So, I doubt they know Bob or that Bob knows them.  He may know of them, but I don&#039;t think he knows them.

22 said,

December 23, 2007 at 11:04 am

&lt;blockquote&gt;Having been banned for pointing out Rooks obvious intellectual dishonesty making libelous charges against a great mythicists’ work Rook has never actually read.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s exactly what I did.  I pointed out his theological and mythological errors~ as well as refuted his idea of a historical Jesus.  He didn&#039;t want to believe it was rewritten myth, threw a tantrum, cussed me out, next thing I knew they editted posts to make him look like the good guy and me the bad guy.  Oh, but I don&#039;t need to convince you, 22 and probably not any others here who know me, as well as my posting style.

Then they ban you and slander you.  They do a lot of projecting, but that&#039;s ok, even my Church of Christ friend agrees- those who know me will see it and know there is something completely wrong.  That and she sees them as rebellious children too. She got that just by looking at what I showed her- Kelly&#039;s juvenile poll, Brian&#039;s childish blog, and the stint between Rookie and me- she&#039;s not even a member, but she could still peek and see the raunchy mess and replied, &quot;Don&#039;t worry, time is on your side and those children will take a terrible fall unless they straighten up their act.&quot;  Of course, she encouraged me to get the word out about them too.

&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s what happened to me and my other friends there. Including Mriana. Brian is absolutely lying over at his blog when he pretends he didn’t ban Mriana or that it was just an accident.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m glad someone else knows and understands what is happening.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It is true, if you disagree with RRS or catch them being dishonest they will ban you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Found that out the hard way, but I will not apologize for it.  I think for myself and I will not allow anyone to do it for me.  I&#039;m too old not to think for myself and most definitely too old to allow a kid to tell me what to think.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The RRS is more like a pop radio show than any scholarly institute. And for Rook to consider himself a peer or “colleague” of Carrier, Price etc, is just fantasy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ROFLMBO!  Rookie&#039;s not a scholar- none of them are.  He doesn&#039;t know anymore about religion than a lay fundie listening to their preacher.  Everyone knows how I hate it when they don&#039;t tell it the way it really is and well... Rookie missed the mark by a long long ways.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe Rook wouldn’t have these issues if he weren’t just a juvenile punk with a high school education trying to pawn himself off as a “historian and ancient text expert.” He is anything but.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are much stronger than I ever have been.  Oh I&#039;ll take that back...  My latest was pretty strong.  :lol:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Rook and the RRS have turned into an embarrassment to all Freethinkers everywhere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Most definitely and this is one freethinker, as I said before, who will NOT apologize for thinking for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria is right.  I have nothing to do with any lawsuit- what they did not like was that I disagreed with Rookie about there being no historical Jesus and that it was just re-written myth.  That and I also called him a Fundie.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No, I never did get a letter about it and the first I knew of it was when I wanted to rebuttle Brian on his blog and found I was not allowed to do so.  They do not want anyone to disagree with them on anything, when they are just a bunch of young know-nothings.  They never said one word to me about being actually banned.  They threatened it and I quit posting for a while, then this crap and THAT&#8217;S how I found out I was banned.  I really don&#8217;t care, because I can get my say in other ways.</p>
<p>Bob hasn&#8217;t ever mentioned the RRS, so I have doubts about him being involved with them.  Yes, he has them as friends on his MySpace deal, but I doubt he knows what they are about.  He doesn&#8217;t have time to mess around with the net too much and add to that, Rookie had no knowledge that Bob writes about the relationship to Mithra and alike, as well as talked about the parallel myths on a Minnesota Atheist podcast.  So, I doubt they know Bob or that Bob knows them.  He may know of them, but I don&#8217;t think he knows them.</p>
<p>22 said,</p>
<p>December 23, 2007 at 11:04 am</p>
<blockquote><p>Having been banned for pointing out Rooks obvious intellectual dishonesty making libelous charges against a great mythicists’ work Rook has never actually read.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what I did.  I pointed out his theological and mythological errors~ as well as refuted his idea of a historical Jesus.  He didn&#8217;t want to believe it was rewritten myth, threw a tantrum, cussed me out, next thing I knew they editted posts to make him look like the good guy and me the bad guy.  Oh, but I don&#8217;t need to convince you, 22 and probably not any others here who know me, as well as my posting style.</p>
<p>Then they ban you and slander you.  They do a lot of projecting, but that&#8217;s ok, even my Church of Christ friend agrees- those who know me will see it and know there is something completely wrong.  That and she sees them as rebellious children too. She got that just by looking at what I showed her- Kelly&#8217;s juvenile poll, Brian&#8217;s childish blog, and the stint between Rookie and me- she&#8217;s not even a member, but she could still peek and see the raunchy mess and replied, &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry, time is on your side and those children will take a terrible fall unless they straighten up their act.&#8221;  Of course, she encouraged me to get the word out about them too.</p>
<blockquote><p>That’s what happened to me and my other friends there. Including Mriana. Brian is absolutely lying over at his blog when he pretends he didn’t ban Mriana or that it was just an accident.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m glad someone else knows and understands what is happening.</p>
<blockquote><p>It is true, if you disagree with RRS or catch them being dishonest they will ban you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Found that out the hard way, but I will not apologize for it.  I think for myself and I will not allow anyone to do it for me.  I&#8217;m too old not to think for myself and most definitely too old to allow a kid to tell me what to think.</p>
<blockquote><p>The RRS is more like a pop radio show than any scholarly institute. And for Rook to consider himself a peer or “colleague” of Carrier, Price etc, is just fantasy.</p></blockquote>
<p>ROFLMBO!  Rookie&#8217;s not a scholar- none of them are.  He doesn&#8217;t know anymore about religion than a lay fundie listening to their preacher.  Everyone knows how I hate it when they don&#8217;t tell it the way it really is and well&#8230; Rookie missed the mark by a long long ways.</p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe Rook wouldn’t have these issues if he weren’t just a juvenile punk with a high school education trying to pawn himself off as a “historian and ancient text expert.” He is anything but.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are much stronger than I ever have been.  Oh I&#8217;ll take that back&#8230;  My latest was pretty strong.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Rook and the RRS have turned into an embarrassment to all Freethinkers everywhere.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most definitely and this is one freethinker, as I said before, who will NOT apologize for thinking for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, he&#039;s now trying to claim banning Mriana had to do with a &quot;lawsuit&quot;, and he &quot;can&#039;t find her username&quot; and that she was &quot;banned over a month ago&quot;.  When yesterday he said she wasn&#039;t banned.  It&#039;s such obvious lies and so petty.  I hope Carrier and Price do distance themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, he&#8217;s now trying to claim banning Mriana had to do with a &#8220;lawsuit&#8221;, and he &#8220;can&#8217;t find her username&#8221; and that she was &#8220;banned over a month ago&#8221;.  When yesterday he said she wasn&#8217;t banned.  It&#8217;s such obvious lies and so petty.  I hope Carrier and Price do distance themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: 22</title>
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		<dc:creator>22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lost all respect for RRS and &lt;strong&gt;ESPECIALLY ROOK&lt;/strong&gt;. Having been banned for pointing out Rooks obvious intellectual dishonesty making libelous charges against a great mythicists&#039; work Rook has never actually read. I was a member of RRS almost from the very beginning. It is true, if you disagree with RRS or catch them being dishonest they will ban you. That&#039;s what happened to me and my other friends there. Including Mriana. Brian is absolutely lying over at his blog when he pretends he didn&#039;t ban Mriana or that it was just an accident. &lt;strong&gt;Whatever&lt;/strong&gt;.

The RRS is more like a pop radio show than any scholarly institute. And for Rook to consider himself a peer or &quot;colleague&quot; of Carrier, Price etc, is just fantasy. I&#039;ve discussed Rook with them both and they are ready to distance themselves from him. He may have to find someone else to peer review his book. Maybe Rook wouldn&#039;t have these issues if he weren&#039;t just a juvenile punk with a high school education trying to pawn himself off as a &quot;historian and ancient text expert.&quot; He is anything but.&lt;strong&gt; Rook and the RRS have turned into an embarrassment to all Freethinkers everywhere.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lost all respect for RRS and <strong>ESPECIALLY ROOK</strong>. Having been banned for pointing out Rooks obvious intellectual dishonesty making libelous charges against a great mythicists&#8217; work Rook has never actually read. I was a member of RRS almost from the very beginning. It is true, if you disagree with RRS or catch them being dishonest they will ban you. That&#8217;s what happened to me and my other friends there. Including Mriana. Brian is absolutely lying over at his blog when he pretends he didn&#8217;t ban Mriana or that it was just an accident. <strong>Whatever</strong>.</p>
<p>The RRS is more like a pop radio show than any scholarly institute. And for Rook to consider himself a peer or &#8220;colleague&#8221; of Carrier, Price etc, is just fantasy. I&#8217;ve discussed Rook with them both and they are ready to distance themselves from him. He may have to find someone else to peer review his book. Maybe Rook wouldn&#8217;t have these issues if he weren&#8217;t just a juvenile punk with a high school education trying to pawn himself off as a &#8220;historian and ancient text expert.&#8221; He is anything but.<strong> Rook and the RRS have turned into an embarrassment to all Freethinkers everywhere.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m not talking about it here too! See my other blogs! &#124; Brian Sapient</title>
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		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m not talking about it here too! See my other blogs! &#124; Brian Sapient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] centers on the softer, tolerant approach taken by Hemant Mehta and a group of his commenters at Friendly Atheist and the more direct, actively resistant approach promoted by Brian Sapient at Rational Response [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] centers on the softer, tolerant approach taken by Hemant Mehta and a group of his commenters at Friendly Atheist and the more direct, actively resistant approach promoted by Brian Sapient at Rational Response [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys. My name is Renee from Illinois. HI MIKE...yes it is me, renee from that coffee shop you worked at :-)
I have been a subscriber of the RRS for about a year now. There are so MANY comments I read above that I don&#039;t even know what to respond to! I have had a chance to work with Brian and other members of the squad from time to time on projects over the internet and have an understanding of their mission and would love to participate in some friendly banter through these blogs. 
Tell me what you all think about this: The first time I stumbled upon the RRS I was shocked and amazed at the same time. After months of reading their forums and getting involved in chat rooms I decided that if anything, they were only one of many different views of atheism. I fully support them. I fully support Margaret Downey. I fully support Hemant Mehta...all different views :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys. My name is Renee from Illinois. HI MIKE&#8230;yes it is me, renee from that coffee shop you worked at <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I have been a subscriber of the RRS for about a year now. There are so MANY comments I read above that I don&#8217;t even know what to respond to! I have had a chance to work with Brian and other members of the squad from time to time on projects over the internet and have an understanding of their mission and would love to participate in some friendly banter through these blogs.<br />
Tell me what you all think about this: The first time I stumbled upon the RRS I was shocked and amazed at the same time. After months of reading their forums and getting involved in chat rooms I decided that if anything, they were only one of many different views of atheism. I fully support them. I fully support Margaret Downey. I fully support Hemant Mehta&#8230;all different views <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Good answers, Tao, and I can agree with what you said too. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I second that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Good answers, Tao, and I can agree with what you said too. </p></blockquote>
<p>I second that</p>
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