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		<title>By: AnonyMouse</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/12/12/is-christianity-important-the-vote-was-today/comment-page-2/#comment-282765</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonyMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Whereas the word &quot;Diwali&quot; is a shortened version of the Sanskrit term &quot;Deepavali&quot;, which means &quot;a row of lamps&quot;;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I find it hilarious that they felt the need to include that.  Seriously, how is that important?

It&#039;s fairly easy to see why someone would vote &quot;yes&quot; to Hinduism and &quot;no&quot; to Christianity.  While the Hindu resolution simply recognized Hinduism as a valid religion and requested that we respect their practices, the Christian resolution is full of flattery and butt-kissing.  &quot;Christianity is SO IMPORTANT to our country!  We were FOUNDED on it!  And look how BIG it is!  We MUST pander to it!&quot;  Seriously, why do we need a resolution to tell us that Christianity is enormous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Whereas the word &#8220;Diwali&#8221; is a shortened version of the Sanskrit term &#8220;Deepavali&#8221;, which means &#8220;a row of lamps&#8221;;</p></blockquote>
<p>I find it hilarious that they felt the need to include that.  Seriously, how is that important?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fairly easy to see why someone would vote &#8220;yes&#8221; to Hinduism and &#8220;no&#8221; to Christianity.  While the Hindu resolution simply recognized Hinduism as a valid religion and requested that we respect their practices, the Christian resolution is full of flattery and butt-kissing.  &#8220;Christianity is SO IMPORTANT to our country!  We were FOUNDED on it!  And look how BIG it is!  We MUST pander to it!&#8221;  Seriously, why do we need a resolution to tell us that Christianity is enormous?</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uggghh excuse me but my congresspunk voted no. and im outraged. His name is Ackerman from the lib state of NY. On October of 2007 he voted yes to house resolution 635 recognizing the significance of ramamdan a muslim holiday. On October 29, 2007 he co-sponsored and voted yeah in favor of House resolution 747 recognizing the significance of the hundu holiday of diwali. Why the hypocrisy? To cater to the minorities that live in Queens NY???
Mr. jerk (ugh i mean ackerman) defended his no vote by saying that congress talking about the Messiah is a violation of the seperation of church and state. 
I&#039;m a latino born in the USA and i bleed red white and blue. why are the leftist libs always on the offense in destroying the basics of this great nation???!!!
Do any of you recognize this line?......&quot;And for the support of this Declaration, WITH A FIRM RELIANCE ON THE PROTECTION OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor&quot;. If you dont ... study it ...its the last line of the Declaration of Independance. This country was founded on religious beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uggghh excuse me but my congresspunk voted no. and im outraged. His name is Ackerman from the lib state of NY. On October of 2007 he voted yes to house resolution 635 recognizing the significance of ramamdan a muslim holiday. On October 29, 2007 he co-sponsored and voted yeah in favor of House resolution 747 recognizing the significance of the hundu holiday of diwali. Why the hypocrisy? To cater to the minorities that live in Queens NY???<br />
Mr. jerk (ugh i mean ackerman) defended his no vote by saying that congress talking about the Messiah is a violation of the seperation of church and state.<br />
I&#8217;m a latino born in the USA and i bleed red white and blue. why are the leftist libs always on the offense in destroying the basics of this great nation???!!!<br />
Do any of you recognize this line?&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;And for the support of this Declaration, WITH A FIRM RELIANCE ON THE PROTECTION OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor&#8221;. If you dont &#8230; study it &#8230;its the last line of the Declaration of Independance. This country was founded on religious beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: PhillyChief</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/12/12/is-christianity-important-the-vote-was-today/comment-page-2/#comment-114698</link>
		<dc:creator>PhillyChief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a very nice way of saying, &quot;sorry you filthy atheist, but it&#039;s a done deal. 392 to 9 btw, thank god. Speaking of which, perhaps you should get on board. Still, feel free to write me again in the future. I&#039;ll completely ignore it but hey, writing me means you&#039;re thinking of me and if you&#039;re thinking of me then you&#039;ll probably vote for me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a very nice way of saying, &#8220;sorry you filthy atheist, but it&#8217;s a done deal. 392 to 9 btw, thank god. Speaking of which, perhaps you should get on board. Still, feel free to write me again in the future. I&#8217;ll completely ignore it but hey, writing me means you&#8217;re thinking of me and if you&#8217;re thinking of me then you&#8217;ll probably vote for me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a month later...I FINALLY heard back from my NH rep.  And I&#039;m really disappointed.

&quot;Dear Ms. _______,

Thank you for contacting me about H. Res. 847, a resolution recognizing
the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith. I truly appreciate
hearing from you, and I am working hard to stand up for New Hampshire&#039;s
interests in Congress.

I strongly believe that all citizens should be allowed to practice their
religion freely. The freedom of expression is an important part of the
rights afforded to us in the First Amendment.

On December 11, 2007, H. Res 847 passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 392 to 9. Please know that I will keep your views in mind
should any further legislation on religion come to the House floor.

I encourage you to continue to contact me about the issues that are
important to you. Please visit our website www.hodes.house.gov where you
can also sign up for my electronic newsletter and receive periodic
updates on my activities as your Representative in Washington.

Sincerely,
Paul Hodes
Member of Congress&quot;

Uh - IT&#039;S ALREADY AFFORDED TO US IN THE CONSTITUTION.  THANKS.  NO NEED TO SPEND USELESS TIME ON IT.  HOW ABOUT PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE FREEDOM TO NOT PRACTICE RELIGION?!?!??!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a month later&#8230;I FINALLY heard back from my NH rep.  And I&#8217;m really disappointed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Ms. _______,</p>
<p>Thank you for contacting me about H. Res. 847, a resolution recognizing<br />
the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith. I truly appreciate<br />
hearing from you, and I am working hard to stand up for New Hampshire&#8217;s<br />
interests in Congress.</p>
<p>I strongly believe that all citizens should be allowed to practice their<br />
religion freely. The freedom of expression is an important part of the<br />
rights afforded to us in the First Amendment.</p>
<p>On December 11, 2007, H. Res 847 passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 392 to 9. Please know that I will keep your views in mind<br />
should any further legislation on religion come to the House floor.</p>
<p>I encourage you to continue to contact me about the issues that are<br />
important to you. Please visit our website <a href="http://www.hodes.house.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.hodes.house.gov</a> where you<br />
can also sign up for my electronic newsletter and receive periodic<br />
updates on my activities as your Representative in Washington.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Paul Hodes<br />
Member of Congress&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh &#8211; IT&#8217;S ALREADY AFFORDED TO US IN THE CONSTITUTION.  THANKS.  NO NEED TO SPEND USELESS TIME ON IT.  HOW ABOUT PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE FREEDOM TO NOT PRACTICE RELIGION?!?!??!</p>
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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; Say No to House Resolution 888</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/12/12/is-christianity-important-the-vote-was-today/comment-page-1/#comment-111132</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; Say No to House Resolution 888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the travesty that was House Resolution 847? It was about &#8220;the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith.&#8221; And it passed by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the travesty that was House Resolution 847? It was about &#8220;the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith.&#8221; And it passed by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/12/12/is-christianity-important-the-vote-was-today/comment-page-1/#comment-103187</link>
		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes you think there isn&#039;t, Sarah?  Even CSH questions it and I think I posted a link to their news deal.  No, I didn&#039;t.  Here it is:  http://ga1.org/secular_humanism/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=7251316&amp;r=

&lt;blockquote&gt;The First Amendment&#039;s guarantee of religious liberty, and of the nonestablishment of religion, was devised to create a secular state in which all religions would be equally tolerated and none given preference. The language of the House resolution effectively undermines the design of the Founders, and creates an atmosphere where non-Christians will continue to be targeted, treated like second-class citizens, and even become victims of violence like those four Jewish subway riders in New York.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s just a small quote of what all they said about it and I hope CSH and other like groups manage to reverse this resolution because it is very rude to others- not just non-theists.

&lt;blockquote&gt;We call on the Congress to reject this resolution, to stand up for religious freedom, secularism, and pluralism, and to foster a climate in which all believers and nonbelievers alike are treated equally.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree with CSH and support them in this statement- the whole of their statement, not just what I quoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes you think there isn&#8217;t, Sarah?  Even CSH questions it and I think I posted a link to their news deal.  No, I didn&#8217;t.  Here it is:  <a href="http://ga1.org/secular_humanism/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=7251316&amp;r=" rel="nofollow">http://ga1.org/secular_humanism/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=7251316&amp;r=</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The First Amendment&#8217;s guarantee of religious liberty, and of the nonestablishment of religion, was devised to create a secular state in which all religions would be equally tolerated and none given preference. The language of the House resolution effectively undermines the design of the Founders, and creates an atmosphere where non-Christians will continue to be targeted, treated like second-class citizens, and even become victims of violence like those four Jewish subway riders in New York.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s just a small quote of what all they said about it and I hope CSH and other like groups manage to reverse this resolution because it is very rude to others- not just non-theists.</p>
<blockquote><p>We call on the Congress to reject this resolution, to stand up for religious freedom, secularism, and pluralism, and to foster a climate in which all believers and nonbelievers alike are treated equally.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with CSH and support them in this statement- the whole of their statement, not just what I quoted.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is, eh... 

There&#039;s no First Amendment violation here, but it&#039;s still a waste of time. Isn&#039;t there a war in Iraq or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is, eh&#8230; </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no First Amendment violation here, but it&#8217;s still a waste of time. Isn&#8217;t there a war in Iraq or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Elstner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Elstner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I agree that the resolution is annoying, but this is just a wee bit over the top:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Only nine were willing to stand up and say “No” to theocracy. You weren’t one of them. Shame on you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
By writing a letter worded like that, I think you made it easy for him to ignore you, and to feel justified harboring whatever stereotypes about atheists he happens to harbor. The resolution doesn&#039;t turn the US into a theocracy. Not even close. In fact it does nothing at all.

This is a tricky subject for letters to representatives, since the resolution is all just words. No action is actually taken, thus it isn&#039;t easy to avoid talking about feelings, unfortunately. Hm OK, there&#039;s still the wasted money theme, but that feels a bit weak.

Hm, perhaps it would help if Christians sent letters criticizing the grandstanding on grounds of humility, which Christians are supposed to display. And pointing out that Christians aren&#039;t persecuted in the US while they&#039;re at it. Something along these lines. Just no hyperbole about a supposed &quot;theocracy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I agree that the resolution is annoying, but this is just a wee bit over the top:</p>
<blockquote><p>Only nine were willing to stand up and say “No” to theocracy. You weren’t one of them. Shame on you.</p></blockquote>
<p>By writing a letter worded like that, I think you made it easy for him to ignore you, and to feel justified harboring whatever stereotypes about atheists he happens to harbor. The resolution doesn&#8217;t turn the US into a theocracy. Not even close. In fact it does nothing at all.</p>
<p>This is a tricky subject for letters to representatives, since the resolution is all just words. No action is actually taken, thus it isn&#8217;t easy to avoid talking about feelings, unfortunately. Hm OK, there&#8217;s still the wasted money theme, but that feels a bit weak.</p>
<p>Hm, perhaps it would help if Christians sent letters criticizing the grandstanding on grounds of humility, which Christians are supposed to display. And pointing out that Christians aren&#8217;t persecuted in the US while they&#8217;re at it. Something along these lines. Just no hyperbole about a supposed &#8220;theocracy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cheri</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe the reason king felt it necessary to reiterate the importance of Christianity to the 90% of Americans who are Christians is because the government felt it was necessary to pass this resolution in October telling muslims how wonderful ramadan is and how we should all respect it. Here is the link to the US go site where our elected officials pay homage to our fellow muslims. No i didnt make this up: http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&amp;x=20071003165444mlenuhret0.9762384&amp;m=October
oh - and Merry Christmas everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe the reason king felt it necessary to reiterate the importance of Christianity to the 90% of Americans who are Christians is because the government felt it was necessary to pass this resolution in October telling muslims how wonderful ramadan is and how we should all respect it. Here is the link to the US go site where our elected officials pay homage to our fellow muslims. No i didnt make this up: <a href="http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&amp;x=20071003165444mlenuhret0.9762384&amp;m=October" rel="nofollow">http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&amp;x=20071003165444mlenuhret0.9762384&amp;m=October</a><br />
oh &#8211; and Merry Christmas everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: literaghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>literaghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I &lt;a href=&quot;http://literaghost.blogspot.com/2007/12/wrote-my-congressman.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote a letter&lt;/a&gt;. Not sure if it&#039;ll do much good, but we&#039;ll see.

 - Miz L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I <a href="http://literaghost.blogspot.com/2007/12/wrote-my-congressman.html" rel="nofollow">wrote a letter</a>. Not sure if it&#8217;ll do much good, but we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p> &#8211; Miz L.</p>
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