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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wick,

Hmmm... Now you sound like someone that&#039;s worth listening to.  I&#039;ll have to check out your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wick,</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; Now you sound like someone that&#8217;s worth listening to.  I&#8217;ll have to check out your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Wick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to the movie also.  As a youth pastor, I&#039;ve gotten about 20 e-mails from well-meaning adults asking me to boycott it.  Not a chance.

And from what I&#039;ve heard, the &quot;god&quot; in the movie sounds like one that needs to be killed anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to the movie also.  As a youth pastor, I&#8217;ve gotten about 20 e-mails from well-meaning adults asking me to boycott it.  Not a chance.</p>
<p>And from what I&#8217;ve heard, the &#8220;god&#8221; in the movie sounds like one that needs to be killed anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Linda, it’s true that Jesus was a polemicist — so is Rush Limbaugh — and had radical ideas — so does Fred Phelps — but while these things aren’t bad in themselves, they aren’t good in themselves either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course.  I understand your point.  But if the radical ideas bring about questions, conversations, and ultimately more knowledge and insight into the issue at hand; then everybody wins.  No, the ideas may not be good in themselves...  but the possible results can be, if all parties are looking in the same (at least similiar) direction.  If you just flat out dismiss the ideas without even taking a good look, then everyone loses.  Then we go back into our separate (oh no that word again) boxes and the fear of stepping on people&#039;s toes.  Complacency will not resolve conflicts.  It just promotes more fear, hatred, war, and...  death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan,</p>
<blockquote><p>Linda, it’s true that Jesus was a polemicist — so is Rush Limbaugh — and had radical ideas — so does Fred Phelps — but while these things aren’t bad in themselves, they aren’t good in themselves either.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course.  I understand your point.  But if the radical ideas bring about questions, conversations, and ultimately more knowledge and insight into the issue at hand; then everybody wins.  No, the ideas may not be good in themselves&#8230;  but the possible results can be, if all parties are looking in the same (at least similiar) direction.  If you just flat out dismiss the ideas without even taking a good look, then everyone loses.  Then we go back into our separate (oh no that word again) boxes and the fear of stepping on people&#8217;s toes.  Complacency will not resolve conflicts.  It just promotes more fear, hatred, war, and&#8230;  death.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda, it&#039;s true that Jesus was a polemicist -- so is Rush Limbaugh --  and had radical ideas -- so does Fred Phelps -- but while these things aren&#039;t bad in themselves, they aren&#039;t good in themselves either.

Jeff, I didn&#039;t like The Last Temptation of Christ -- except for Peter Gabriel&#039;s soundtrack, which I went right out and bought.  But the movie would have worked better, I think, if they&#039;d gotten someone like Nino Rota to do the music, very Godfather-ish.  I think Christianity has already returned to its end-of-the-world, apocalyptic, faith-healing, demon-exorcising, hellfire-and-damnation preaching roots, and the world isn&#039;t much better off for it.

As far as &quot;admitted&quot; and &quot;avowed,&quot; these terms have gotten a lot of play with gay people like me.  Still, there is a point to them, since &quot;queer&quot; and &quot;atheist&quot; have been popular labels of abuse, much as &quot;retarded&quot; and &quot;mentally ill&quot; seem to be among atheists.  The early Christians were called atheists for denying the Roman gods, and they returned the gesture by calling the pagans atheists.  People like Thomas Jefferson were, if I recall correctly, called atheists.  And a good many people have been called fags and dykes (feminists, for example).  So, it can be worth noting that someone has not just been &lt;em&gt;called&lt;/em&gt; an atheist or a fag, but does in fact answer to the name.

Still, I was very happy the first time I was able to work &quot;admitted heterosexual&quot; into a book review, back in the 80s.  &quot;Admitted&quot; and &quot;avowed&quot; Christian would work too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda, it&#8217;s true that Jesus was a polemicist &#8212; so is Rush Limbaugh &#8212;  and had radical ideas &#8212; so does Fred Phelps &#8212; but while these things aren&#8217;t bad in themselves, they aren&#8217;t good in themselves either.</p>
<p>Jeff, I didn&#8217;t like The Last Temptation of Christ &#8212; except for Peter Gabriel&#8217;s soundtrack, which I went right out and bought.  But the movie would have worked better, I think, if they&#8217;d gotten someone like Nino Rota to do the music, very Godfather-ish.  I think Christianity has already returned to its end-of-the-world, apocalyptic, faith-healing, demon-exorcising, hellfire-and-damnation preaching roots, and the world isn&#8217;t much better off for it.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;admitted&#8221; and &#8220;avowed,&#8221; these terms have gotten a lot of play with gay people like me.  Still, there is a point to them, since &#8220;queer&#8221; and &#8220;atheist&#8221; have been popular labels of abuse, much as &#8220;retarded&#8221; and &#8220;mentally ill&#8221; seem to be among atheists.  The early Christians were called atheists for denying the Roman gods, and they returned the gesture by calling the pagans atheists.  People like Thomas Jefferson were, if I recall correctly, called atheists.  And a good many people have been called fags and dykes (feminists, for example).  So, it can be worth noting that someone has not just been <em>called</em> an atheist or a fag, but does in fact answer to the name.</p>
<p>Still, I was very happy the first time I was able to work &#8220;admitted heterosexual&#8221; into a book review, back in the 80s.  &#8220;Admitted&#8221; and &#8220;avowed&#8221; Christian would work too.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda,
I&#039;m a night owl because one of my avocations is astronomy.  Also I&#039;m on the west coast so I&#039;m behind most others on this blog (in more ways than one.)  Sorry to hear that you suffer from insomnia.  Best treatment for that is to get a lot of sleep.

Now I have to go bring science to all the good little children of the world.  Back later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda,<br />
I&#8217;m a night owl because one of my avocations is astronomy.  Also I&#8217;m on the west coast so I&#8217;m behind most others on this blog (in more ways than one.)  Sorry to hear that you suffer from insomnia.  Best treatment for that is to get a lot of sleep.</p>
<p>Now I have to go bring science to all the good little children of the world.  Back later.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Wade,

What were you doing up so late?  Do you suffer from insomnia too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Wade,</p>
<p>What were you doing up so late?  Do you suffer from insomnia too?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought The last temptation of Christ was a very good movie.  Please rent it if you have not yet seen it.  I couldn&#039;t understand why any Christian would actually be against the movie.  I thought it actually brought to light the good things that Christianity stood for (or at least should stand for).  That whole protest back then just shows how &quot;messed up&quot; (and in need of radical reform) Christianity is.  Even though I, personally, am an atheist, I do think the world would be a better place if Christianity dropped its dogmatism.  I look forward to seeing this new movie.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought The last temptation of Christ was a very good movie.  Please rent it if you have not yet seen it.  I couldn&#8217;t understand why any Christian would actually be against the movie.  I thought it actually brought to light the good things that Christianity stood for (or at least should stand for).  That whole protest back then just shows how &#8220;messed up&#8221; (and in need of radical reform) Christianity is.  Even though I, personally, am an atheist, I do think the world would be a better place if Christianity dropped its dogmatism.  I look forward to seeing this new movie.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That short video that Linda linked to is hilarious, and so true.  Remember a film called &quot;The Last Temptation of Christ&quot;?  The furor and protest over it made the producers millions that they wouldn&#039;t otherwise have gotten.  Protestors were actually weeping while saying &quot;Don&#039;t go see the Last Temptation of Christ!&quot; over and over.  I can&#039;t think of a better promotion scheme since somebody said, &quot;Eat anything you want here except the fruit on that tree over there.&quot;  I wasn&#039;t interested in the Golden Compass until all the brouhaha.  Now I&#039;ll go right away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That short video that Linda linked to is hilarious, and so true.  Remember a film called &#8220;The Last Temptation of Christ&#8221;?  The furor and protest over it made the producers millions that they wouldn&#8217;t otherwise have gotten.  Protestors were actually weeping while saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t go see the Last Temptation of Christ!&#8221; over and over.  I can&#8217;t think of a better promotion scheme since somebody said, &#8220;Eat anything you want here except the fruit on that tree over there.&#8221;  I wasn&#8217;t interested in the Golden Compass until all the brouhaha.  Now I&#8217;ll go right away.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda, it&#039;s probably best to call me by my full name only because there are two or three other Richards who comment here.  One time it got confusing.  Welcome to the Evil Plan.  May much good come from it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda, it&#8217;s probably best to call me by my full name only because there are two or three other Richards who comment here.  One time it got confusing.  Welcome to the Evil Plan.  May much good come from it.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Wade, (I should just call you Richard, but somehow your full name stuck in my brain, and that&#039;s the only way I can address you - you don&#039;t seem like you unless I do. :p)  

Thank you for all you said.  You are very kind.  And yes, I guess I&#039;m pretty radical.  I always have been that, even when I was an atheist.  Then I found out Jesus was a Liberal and had radical beliefs.  He was a true polemicist.  I&#039;m proud to be like him in however small sense...

Stephen,

&lt;blockquote&gt;What would the world come to if our kids were presented with multiple points of view?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The world would be a much better place, I imagine... (sigh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Wade, (I should just call you Richard, but somehow your full name stuck in my brain, and that&#8217;s the only way I can address you &#8211; you don&#8217;t seem like you unless I do. :p)  </p>
<p>Thank you for all you said.  You are very kind.  And yes, I guess I&#8217;m pretty radical.  I always have been that, even when I was an atheist.  Then I found out Jesus was a Liberal and had radical beliefs.  He was a true polemicist.  I&#8217;m proud to be like him in however small sense&#8230;</p>
<p>Stephen,</p>
<blockquote><p>What would the world come to if our kids were presented with multiple points of view?</p></blockquote>
<p>The world would be a much better place, I imagine&#8230; (sigh)</p>
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