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		<title>By: monkeymind</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/06/an-atheist-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-75157</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeymind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I see that you thought you were *only* saying that the Quaker sib was just a complete failure as far as the goal of raising a child to be a critical thinker. Sorry, that doesn&#039;t reassure me as to your understanding of the kind of unconditional love needed to parent well. Or even that you understand what being a critical thinker means, if you give an automatic 0% in criitical thinking to someone with a label you don&#039;t like, and an automatic 100% to the atheist. Even though you admit you have no idea what Quakerism is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I see that you thought you were *only* saying that the Quaker sib was just a complete failure as far as the goal of raising a child to be a critical thinker. Sorry, that doesn&#8217;t reassure me as to your understanding of the kind of unconditional love needed to parent well. Or even that you understand what being a critical thinker means, if you give an automatic 0% in criitical thinking to someone with a label you don&#8217;t like, and an automatic 100% to the atheist. Even though you admit you have no idea what Quakerism is.</p>
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		<title>By: Aj</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/06/an-atheist-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-75134</link>
		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-Mriana
&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t have a sibling and I don’t live in China. Rod Roddenberry is also an only child and there are many who aren’t famous or from famous parents in the U.S. who are only children too. Guess I’m the “almost”, as well as others, you are referring too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The sentence you quoted does not imply everyone has a sibling, just that nearly everywhere has people with siblings. I didn&#039;t think I would be explaining that.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I agree&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It does not follow from my one sentence, and clearly doesn&#039;t when taken in full context with the specific part I quoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-Mriana</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t have a sibling and I don’t live in China. Rod Roddenberry is also an only child and there are many who aren’t famous or from famous parents in the U.S. who are only children too. Guess I’m the “almost”, as well as others, you are referring too.</p></blockquote>
<p>The sentence you quoted does not imply everyone has a sibling, just that nearly everywhere has people with siblings. I didn&#8217;t think I would be explaining that.</p>
<blockquote><p>I agree</p></blockquote>
<p>It does not follow from my one sentence, and clearly doesn&#8217;t when taken in full context with the specific part I quoted.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/06/an-atheist-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-75133</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is also seems to me to be an extremely hypocritical remark for someone who claims to be against the indoctrination of children. It implies that you would withhold approval from a child who did not adopt your preferred worldview. That is a very manipulative way to parent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is also seems to me to be an extremely hypocritical remark for someone who claims to be against the indoctrination of children. It implies that you would withhold approval from a child who did not adopt your preferred worldview. That is a very manipulative way to parent.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree</p>
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		<title>By: monkeymind</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/06/an-atheist-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-75083</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeymind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aj, you said that Kate&#039;s parents had a 50% success rate. That means you assume Kate&#039;s brother is a failure, based on the scant information Kate provided. That is the remark of an insensitive jack @ss in any culture. 

It is also seems to me to be an extremely hypocritical remark for someone who claims to be against the indoctrination of children. It implies that you would withhold approval from a child who did not adopt your preferred worldview. That is a very manipulative way to parent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aj, you said that Kate&#8217;s parents had a 50% success rate. That means you assume Kate&#8217;s brother is a failure, based on the scant information Kate provided. That is the remark of an insensitive jack @ss in any culture. </p>
<p>It is also seems to me to be an extremely hypocritical remark for someone who claims to be against the indoctrination of children. It implies that you would withhold approval from a child who did not adopt your preferred worldview. That is a very manipulative way to parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/06/an-atheist-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-75076</link>
		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I understand the concept of kinship, you’ll find people have siblings almost everywhere (accept in China). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t have a sibling and I don&#039;t live in China.  Rod Roddenberry is also an only child and there are many who aren&#039;t famous or from famous parents in the U.S. who are only children too.  Guess I&#039;m the &quot;almost&quot;, as well as others, you are referring too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I understand the concept of kinship, you’ll find people have siblings almost everywhere (accept in China). </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a sibling and I don&#8217;t live in China.  Rod Roddenberry is also an only child and there are many who aren&#8217;t famous or from famous parents in the U.S. who are only children too.  Guess I&#8217;m the &#8220;almost&#8221;, as well as others, you are referring too.</p>
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		<title>By: Aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-Mriana
&lt;blockquote&gt;Not all people of faith are bad, Aj and if you had read closely you would have known it was Kate’s sibling. I don’t blame her for calling you a jack @ss. Siblings may fight among themselves, but one doesn’t dare say one bad word about the brother or sister without getting decked for it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn&#039;t say anyone was bad. It was a response to the suggestion that a Christian is a critical thinker in terms of their beliefs, because they were free to develop their own. Critical thinking does not follow from developing your beliefs independently. It seems obvious to me, from the specific part I quoted and my response, that I was refering to this.

I understand the concept of kinship, you&#039;ll find people have siblings almost everywhere (accept in China). Although, this level of protectiveness is not universal. I didn&#039;t know who was the Atheist, Kate or her sibling.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember Starks attends the UU, but he’s a non-theist. So, think about it before you answer. Then there is Robert Price, who attends the Episcopal Church. He’s an atheist and a Humanist, but if you didn’t know, would you be so quick to jump to conclusions? Esp after what you know now?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If they&#039;re called a Christian, and cultural isn&#039;t in the sentence, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unwarranted to assume that they don&#039;t do any critical thinking on certain concepts. Unitarian Universalism and attending a church don&#039;t require any beliefs, they also don&#039;t make anyone a Christian.

I don&#039;t know much about Quakers, I know historically they tried to keep as few possessions as possible, and some in America do not adopt technology. Also, there&#039;s a fare few in the anti-war protest movement, so I assume many are pacifists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-Mriana</p>
<blockquote><p>Not all people of faith are bad, Aj and if you had read closely you would have known it was Kate’s sibling. I don’t blame her for calling you a jack @ss. Siblings may fight among themselves, but one doesn’t dare say one bad word about the brother or sister without getting decked for it.</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say anyone was bad. It was a response to the suggestion that a Christian is a critical thinker in terms of their beliefs, because they were free to develop their own. Critical thinking does not follow from developing your beliefs independently. It seems obvious to me, from the specific part I quoted and my response, that I was refering to this.</p>
<p>I understand the concept of kinship, you&#8217;ll find people have siblings almost everywhere (accept in China). Although, this level of protectiveness is not universal. I didn&#8217;t know who was the Atheist, Kate or her sibling.</p>
<blockquote><p>Remember Starks attends the UU, but he’s a non-theist. So, think about it before you answer. Then there is Robert Price, who attends the Episcopal Church. He’s an atheist and a Humanist, but if you didn’t know, would you be so quick to jump to conclusions? Esp after what you know now?</p></blockquote>
<p>If they&#8217;re called a Christian, and cultural isn&#8217;t in the sentence, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unwarranted to assume that they don&#8217;t do any critical thinking on certain concepts. Unitarian Universalism and attending a church don&#8217;t require any beliefs, they also don&#8217;t make anyone a Christian.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about Quakers, I know historically they tried to keep as few possessions as possible, and some in America do not adopt technology. Also, there&#8217;s a fare few in the anti-war protest movement, so I assume many are pacifists.</p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/06/an-atheist-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-74875</link>
		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OUCH!  You are lucky she didn&#039;t double deck you, Aj.  :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUCH!  You are lucky she didn&#8217;t double deck you, Aj.  <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Mriana!!!! ;) And my BABY brother, no less...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Mriana!!!! <img src='http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  And my BABY brother, no less&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all people of faith are bad, Aj and if you had read closely you would have known it was Kate&#039;s sibling.  I don&#039;t blame her for calling you a jack @ss.  Siblings may fight among themselves, but one doesn&#039;t dare say one bad word about the brother or sister without getting decked for it.

Besides, if you do some research you might find that some Quakers in 1933 adopted at least the first Humanist Manifesto, if not the second one also in 1973.  Not to mention, some have a belief similar to Bishop Spong&#039;s and others in the Sea of Faith.  In essence, some are Religious Humanists, so you really can&#039;t judge a Christian, esp IF you see the word Quaker in parantheses.  You never know for sure.  Would you have made the same comment if she put Unitarian in parantheses?  Remember Starks attends the UU, but he&#039;s a non-theist.   So, think about it before you answer.  Then there is Robert Price, who attends the Episcopal Church.  He&#039;s an atheist and a Humanist, but if you didn&#039;t know, would you be so quick to jump to conclusions?  Esp after what you know now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all people of faith are bad, Aj and if you had read closely you would have known it was Kate&#8217;s sibling.  I don&#8217;t blame her for calling you a jack @ss.  Siblings may fight among themselves, but one doesn&#8217;t dare say one bad word about the brother or sister without getting decked for it.</p>
<p>Besides, if you do some research you might find that some Quakers in 1933 adopted at least the first Humanist Manifesto, if not the second one also in 1973.  Not to mention, some have a belief similar to Bishop Spong&#8217;s and others in the Sea of Faith.  In essence, some are Religious Humanists, so you really can&#8217;t judge a Christian, esp IF you see the word Quaker in parantheses.  You never know for sure.  Would you have made the same comment if she put Unitarian in parantheses?  Remember Starks attends the UU, but he&#8217;s a non-theist.   So, think about it before you answer.  Then there is Robert Price, who attends the Episcopal Church.  He&#8217;s an atheist and a Humanist, but if you didn&#8217;t know, would you be so quick to jump to conclusions?  Esp after what you know now?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A 50% success rate isn’t bad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s my brother, you jack @ss.  I think it&#039;s an excellent success as it shows my parents raised two children who learned to think for themselves and weren&#039;t spoon-fed beliefs.

Not all theists are sheep.  Not that you&#039;d know that, since you&#039;re the arrogant, ignorant atheist-type that is the reason we&#039;re the most mistrusted minority in the country.  Thanks!  It&#039;s people like you that make me embarrassed (at times) to say that I&#039;m an atheist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A 50% success rate isn’t bad.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s my brother, you jack @ss.  I think it&#8217;s an excellent success as it shows my parents raised two children who learned to think for themselves and weren&#8217;t spoon-fed beliefs.</p>
<p>Not all theists are sheep.  Not that you&#8217;d know that, since you&#8217;re the arrogant, ignorant atheist-type that is the reason we&#8217;re the most mistrusted minority in the country.  Thanks!  It&#8217;s people like you that make me embarrassed (at times) to say that I&#8217;m an atheist.</p>
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