Comments on: She Gives Norwegian Princesses a Bad Name http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/ Atheism with Positivity Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:09:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: olvlzl, no ism, no ist http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62872 olvlzl, no ism, no ist Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:08:52 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62872 <blockquote>“find your own angel” sounds pretty wacky to me.</blockquote> I wish I could find the review of "Exuberance" by Paul Kurtz which likened it to a Shirley MacLaine book.

“find your own angel” sounds pretty wacky to me.

I wish I could find the review of “Exuberance” by Paul Kurtz which likened it to a Shirley MacLaine book.

]]> By: Friendly Atheist » The Onion on the Norwegian Princess http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62871 Friendly Atheist » The Onion on the Norwegian Princess Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:02:51 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62871 [...] They respond to the crazy angel woman: [...] [...] They respond to the crazy angel woman: [...]

]]> By: HappyNat http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62866 HappyNat Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:50:33 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62866 <blockquote>Well here is the thing, why is it that so many people think “insane” when you talk about religion? </blockquote> Chill out. This is an atheist blog and a school where you can "find your own angel" sounds pretty wacky to me. So we poke fun.

Well here is the thing, why is it that so many people think “insane” when you talk about religion?

Chill out. This is an atheist blog and a school where you can “find your own angel” sounds pretty wacky to me. So we poke fun.

]]> By: olvlzl, no ism, no ist http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62864 olvlzl, no ism, no ist Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:45:13 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62864 Jen, what if they are full of rather eccentric people who can afford to be entertained in that way and who will still get conventional medical care. I'm not familiar with Benny Hinn, though the name if familiar. Lourdes, while I'm sure there are people who did get cheated around that I'm sure there were plenty who weren't. If problems of being cheated or swindled being or encouraged to not seek real medical care is found I'd have no problem with doing something about it, afterall, I'm in favor of stricter regulation of the medical and pharmaceutical industries, which have records that are less than pristine too. By the way, by psychotherapy I meant the Freudian-type nonsense instead of just plain "talk therapy". Freudian therapy might as well be considered along with other pseudo-scientific therapies, it's pretty science free. Doesn't mean that it doesn't have a place at the table of science, though, not with that establishment and financial basis. Jen, what if they are full of rather eccentric people who can afford to be entertained in that way and who will still get conventional medical care. I’m not familiar with Benny Hinn, though the name if familiar. Lourdes, while I’m sure there are people who did get cheated around that I’m sure there were plenty who weren’t. If problems of being cheated or swindled being or encouraged to not seek real medical care is found I’d have no problem with doing something about it, afterall, I’m in favor of stricter regulation of the medical and pharmaceutical industries, which have records that are less than pristine too.

By the way, by psychotherapy I meant the Freudian-type nonsense instead of just plain “talk therapy”. Freudian therapy might as well be considered along with other pseudo-scientific therapies, it’s pretty science free. Doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have a place at the table of science, though, not with that establishment and financial basis.

]]> By: Jen http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62860 Jen Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:24:38 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62860 No, but who is going to want to contact the angels? I see the classes being big with people with mental illnesses, people who are or are family to the very sick, and the terminally clueless. Similiar, in my mind, to the people who go to Lourdes for miracles or Benny Hinn. And they will get taken to the cleaners, too, because this won't work any more than BH is going to cure your cancer. I agree, people can choose to ignore science. But often that is going to have some negetive consequences. No, but who is going to want to contact the angels? I see the classes being big with people with mental illnesses, people who are or are family to the very sick, and the terminally clueless. Similiar, in my mind, to the people who go to Lourdes for miracles or Benny Hinn. And they will get taken to the cleaners, too, because this won’t work any more than BH is going to cure your cancer.

I agree, people can choose to ignore science. But often that is going to have some negetive consequences.

]]> By: olvlzl, no ism, no ist http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62840 olvlzl, no ism, no ist Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:50:12 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62840 Jen, do you know that anyone with mental illness or who are terminally ill have participated in her school? I haven't heard that or read it anywhere. There was an article in the Boston Globe last week about a relatively new phenomenon in New England, the opening of "prayer rooms" where people are encouraged to take the medicines and treatments prescribed by their real doctors. Why set up an either it's all this or all that situation when it doesn't need to exist. Science classrooms in a public schools and people publishing real science have to exclude non-scientific speculations from their work (would that the evolutionary psychologists and other determinists followed that rule) but people in their private lives can choose what they want to in addition outside the strictures necessary for science. As we see, when Americans are forced to make a choice, they'll choose to ignore the science if they can't have both. I don't know if you remember the period before materialist fundamentalism organized and started getting pushy in the late 70s but I've got a feeling a lot more Americans accepted evolution back before them. Jen, do you know that anyone with mental illness or who are terminally ill have participated in her school? I haven’t heard that or read it anywhere.

There was an article in the Boston Globe last week about a relatively new phenomenon in New England, the opening of “prayer rooms” where people are encouraged to take the medicines and treatments prescribed by their real doctors. Why set up an either it’s all this or all that situation when it doesn’t need to exist.

Science classrooms in a public schools and people publishing real science have to exclude non-scientific speculations from their work (would that the evolutionary psychologists and other determinists followed that rule) but people in their private lives can choose what they want to in addition outside the strictures necessary for science. As we see, when Americans are forced to make a choice, they’ll choose to ignore the science if they can’t have both.

I don’t know if you remember the period before materialist fundamentalism organized and started getting pushy in the late 70s but I’ve got a feeling a lot more Americans accepted evolution back before them.

]]> By: Teri http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62837 Teri Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:24:49 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62837 Well here is the thing, why is it that so many people think "insane" when you talk about religion? You don't have to believe it and you certainly don't have to support it. We are all able to decide what we believe to be the truth. Do you call the people who believe in evolution insane? It is so unjust that in todays society religion is looked upon as a weakness or mental issue. As for the fees involved, have you ever been to a school that didn't charge tuition? I know I haven't. It is only right that there is a charge for this education. Why don't all those whom take offense to this just deal in your own world where there is no God or Angels instead of smearing someones name and mental capabilities. Well here is the thing, why is it that so many people think “insane” when you talk about religion? You don’t have to believe it and you certainly don’t have to support it. We are all able to decide what we believe to be the truth. Do you call the people who believe in evolution insane? It is so unjust that in todays society religion is looked upon as a weakness or mental issue. As for the fees involved, have you ever been to a school that didn’t charge tuition? I know I haven’t. It is only right that there is a charge for this education. Why don’t all those whom take offense to this just deal in your own world where there is no God or Angels instead of smearing someones name and mental capabilities.

]]> By: Maria http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62812 Maria Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:48:24 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62812 geesh, that princess has issues............. geesh, that princess has issues………….

]]> By: Jen http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62798 Jen Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:10:25 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62798 Yes, it is awesome to let people who may have mental illnesses or who are desperate for heavenly contact be indulged in silly ways that involve taking their money. That's why its ok to sell fake cures to the terminally ill. The reason there are no angels is that Darwin fed them to the monkeys. Yes, it is awesome to let people who may have mental illnesses or who are desperate for heavenly contact be indulged in silly ways that involve taking their money. That’s why its ok to sell fake cures to the terminally ill.

The reason there are no angels is that Darwin fed them to the monkeys.

]]> By: PrimateIR http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/comment-page-1/#comment-62782 PrimateIR Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:27:55 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/08/19/she-gives-norwegian-princesses-a-bad-name/#comment-62782 I saw this. Somewhere I read that while the royal family had "no official opinion" on the matter they could not help people interested in additional information in finding the school. Odd that. I saw this. Somewhere I read that while the royal family had “no official opinion” on the matter they could not help people interested in additional information in finding the school.

Odd that.

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