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	<title>Comments on: Illegal Church Parking</title>
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		<title>By: WIlliam</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/23/illegal-church-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-109633</link>
		<dc:creator>WIlliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have a grandfathered in right to park. Sunday is a slow traffic day. ATheists, rather than protest, why not get together and start and run a shelter for the homeless, Christians have millions of shelters all over the world that we pay for a run....stop hating us so much andgo and do some good for a change.....OH, remember, all COMMINISTS are ATHEISTS and when they win and run a conntry, millions die, so far about 170 MILLION in the last 100 years.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have a grandfathered in right to park. Sunday is a slow traffic day. ATheists, rather than protest, why not get together and start and run a shelter for the homeless, Christians have millions of shelters all over the world that we pay for a run&#8230;.stop hating us so much andgo and do some good for a change&#8230;..OH, remember, all COMMINISTS are ATHEISTS and when they win and run a conntry, millions die, so far about 170 MILLION in the last 100 years&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/23/illegal-church-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-52470</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC faced a similar problem, with church-goers double-parking in front of &lt;a href=&quot;http://dcist.com/2006/04/18/church_parking_.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;local residents&lt;/a&gt;.  I haven&#039;t heard anything about it lately, so I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s still an issue, but it seemed pretty ridiculous that the church folk felt justified in parking people in for an hour or two every Sunday morning.  Search DCist for &quot;church parking&quot; for more articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC faced a similar problem, with church-goers double-parking in front of <a href="http://dcist.com/2006/04/18/church_parking_.php" rel="nofollow">local residents</a>.  I haven&#8217;t heard anything about it lately, so I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s still an issue, but it seemed pretty ridiculous that the church folk felt justified in parking people in for an hour or two every Sunday morning.  Search DCist for &#8220;church parking&#8221; for more articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/23/illegal-church-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-46804</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion!

The church I attend is located in a residential neighborhood, and is growing at an overwhelming pace, currently attracting about 1,000 people to 5 services each weekend. There is no parking lot per se, and everyone must park on the streets near neighboring homes.

I&#039;m told that complaints have been received from the neighbors about cars blocking driveways on Saturday night and Sunday morning. In response, the church has not made threats nor gone to city officials to ask for exceptions to the rules. Instead, they have made announcements asking for cooperation in being respectful to the neighbors and are, I understand, preparing a video - no doubt humorous and straight to the point, if it is like other presentations the church has made - designed to encourage attenders to park properly and not violate the property rights of residents.

Anger and frustration at those who think they are above the law is justified, but it seems generalizations are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion!</p>
<p>The church I attend is located in a residential neighborhood, and is growing at an overwhelming pace, currently attracting about 1,000 people to 5 services each weekend. There is no parking lot per se, and everyone must park on the streets near neighboring homes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m told that complaints have been received from the neighbors about cars blocking driveways on Saturday night and Sunday morning. In response, the church has not made threats nor gone to city officials to ask for exceptions to the rules. Instead, they have made announcements asking for cooperation in being respectful to the neighbors and are, I understand, preparing a video &#8211; no doubt humorous and straight to the point, if it is like other presentations the church has made &#8211; designed to encourage attenders to park properly and not violate the property rights of residents.</p>
<p>Anger and frustration at those who think they are above the law is justified, but it seems generalizations are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/23/illegal-church-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-46745</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to shake these people.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Gomez says only a third of Armitage Baptist’s congregation lives in Logan Square: its parishioners travel from as far away as Gary and Milwaukee and have enough parking problems already&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So are they encouraging these local 1/3rd of thier church-goers to walk or take local transportation?  Chicago transit, for all its budget problems, is pretty damn useful.  I bet there are buses or els that go right by these churches.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The practical problem of parking, says the pastor, still must be solved.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why not have their services later in the day or on Saturday nights?  I mean, really, would it kill people to change their schedules to make Chicago a better place, with more culture and less polution?  Isn&#039;t that part of being part of the community?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Lucy Gomez says another option, one that the pastor supports, would let parishioners keep parking in one of the boulevards’ four central lanes and squeeze Sunday Parkways into the others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Come on, people, aren&#039;t these church goers demanding a lot- change the time, change the route, and oh yeah, we are still going to be assholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to shake these people.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Gomez says only a third of Armitage Baptist’s congregation lives in Logan Square: its parishioners travel from as far away as Gary and Milwaukee and have enough parking problems already</p></blockquote>
<p>So are they encouraging these local 1/3rd of thier church-goers to walk or take local transportation?  Chicago transit, for all its budget problems, is pretty damn useful.  I bet there are buses or els that go right by these churches.</p>
<blockquote><p>The practical problem of parking, says the pastor, still must be solved.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why not have their services later in the day or on Saturday nights?  I mean, really, would it kill people to change their schedules to make Chicago a better place, with more culture and less polution?  Isn&#8217;t that part of being part of the community?</p>
<blockquote><p>Lucy Gomez says another option, one that the pastor supports, would let parishioners keep parking in one of the boulevards’ four central lanes and squeeze Sunday Parkways into the others.</p></blockquote>
<p>Come on, people, aren&#8217;t these church goers demanding a lot- change the time, change the route, and oh yeah, we are still going to be assholes.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/23/illegal-church-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-46676</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... to be a Chrispie means to be above the law when it comes to a city&#039;s local ordinances, right? Hmmmm.... I wonder if an atheist group could protest by parking illegally in high numbers on a planned day and time in order to have an organized &#039;not praying&#039; day protest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; to be a Chrispie means to be above the law when it comes to a city&#8217;s local ordinances, right? Hmmmm&#8230;. I wonder if an atheist group could protest by parking illegally in high numbers on a planned day and time in order to have an organized &#8216;not praying&#8217; day protest?</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I used to live near a church in England and it seemed like the car-driving members of the congregation were unable to follow basic road safety laws.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatiryworld.typepad.com/chatiryworld/2004/07/to_the_parishio.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Like indicating&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I used to live near a church in England and it seemed like the car-driving members of the congregation were unable to follow basic road safety laws.  <a href="http://chatiryworld.typepad.com/chatiryworld/2004/07/to_the_parishio.html" rel="nofollow">Like indicating</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: vjack</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/23/illegal-church-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-46552</link>
		<dc:creator>vjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expecting churchgoers to obey the law sounds like it might be asking too much. The part about it being political suicide to go against the church sounds like we are back in the Dark Ages and certainly not in modern America, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expecting churchgoers to obey the law sounds like it might be asking too much. The part about it being political suicide to go against the church sounds like we are back in the Dark Ages and certainly not in modern America, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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