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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; eHarmony Humor</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/16/eharmony-saying-no-to-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-46990</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; eHarmony Humor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote about eHarmony last week and how one reporter suspected the site found no matches for him because he was not religious. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/16/eharmony-saying-no-to-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-44230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Men and women are different, no? There’s a different dynamic between men and women than between two men or two women. If those two statements weren’t true, wouldn’t everyone be bisexual? So, Warren did not develop the same expertise regarding the dynamic between men and the dynamic between women.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

men + women have different physical characteristics, certainly, but i have yet to meet anyone who can categorically define a man or woman emotionally, and i suspect i&#039;d have problems finding anyone who fit inside those parameters if someone were arrogant enough to set them. i know both straight and gay couples, and would have a hard time distinguishing their relationships by sexual preference only outside of the bedroom. if you know better, Ken, please correct me. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I wouldn’t go to a kosher chef to get a good recipe for lobster.
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perhaps so, but if i wanted to eat a well prepared meal (and wasn&#039;t prejudice about the ingredients), i&#039;d see a kosher chef as being just as able to do that job as a non-kosher one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Men and women are different, no? There’s a different dynamic between men and women than between two men or two women. If those two statements weren’t true, wouldn’t everyone be bisexual? So, Warren did not develop the same expertise regarding the dynamic between men and the dynamic between women.</p></blockquote>
<p>men + women have different physical characteristics, certainly, but i have yet to meet anyone who can categorically define a man or woman emotionally, and i suspect i&#8217;d have problems finding anyone who fit inside those parameters if someone were arrogant enough to set them. i know both straight and gay couples, and would have a hard time distinguishing their relationships by sexual preference only outside of the bedroom. if you know better, Ken, please correct me. </p>
<blockquote><p>I wouldn’t go to a kosher chef to get a good recipe for lobster.
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<p>perhaps so, but if i wanted to eat a well prepared meal (and wasn&#8217;t prejudice about the ingredients), i&#8217;d see a kosher chef as being just as able to do that job as a non-kosher one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an eHarmony.com success story.

&quot;I didn’t realize same-sex matching was any different than hetero matching… clearly, I have a lot to learn from Warren.&quot;

Warren&#039;s professional counseling experience was mostly in marital counseling between couples that had both sexes represented.  That is how he developed his matching system.  Men and women are different, no?  There&#039;s a different dynamic between men and women than between two men or two women.  If those two statements weren&#039;t true, wouldn&#039;t everyone be bisexual?  So, Warren did not develop the same expertise regarding the dynamic between men and the dynamic between women.  I wouldn&#039;t go to a kosher chef to get a good recipe for lobster.

Not all dating leads to marriage, but from what I&#039;ve read from Warren, the goal of the website has been to reduce the divorce rate by matching people compatible for a happy long-term marriage.  And to make money doing it.  It isn&#039;t a &quot;hook-up&quot; site.

I have friends who aren&#039;t religious who have been accepted by the site and given matches.  Atheism, agnosticism, or another designation clearly doesn&#039;t disqualify anyone from the site, but the site WILL bar people who are married, who have been divorced &quot;too many&quot; times, who (according to its questionnaire) don&#039;t seem to be ready for a long term committment, or who give too many conflicting answers on the questionnaire, indicating they are either being dishonest with themselves, are unstable, or whatever.

As far as atheists being matched up with &quot;Christians&quot;, each person sets their own parameters on that site as far as that goes.  If you are an atheist who has indicated you are open to being matched with a &quot;Christian&quot;, and if the &quot;Christian&quot; has indicated that they were willing to be matched with an &quot;atheist&quot;, then you will be matched if otherwise compatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an eHarmony.com success story.</p>
<p>&#8220;I didn’t realize same-sex matching was any different than hetero matching… clearly, I have a lot to learn from Warren.&#8221;</p>
<p>Warren&#8217;s professional counseling experience was mostly in marital counseling between couples that had both sexes represented.  That is how he developed his matching system.  Men and women are different, no?  There&#8217;s a different dynamic between men and women than between two men or two women.  If those two statements weren&#8217;t true, wouldn&#8217;t everyone be bisexual?  So, Warren did not develop the same expertise regarding the dynamic between men and the dynamic between women.  I wouldn&#8217;t go to a kosher chef to get a good recipe for lobster.</p>
<p>Not all dating leads to marriage, but from what I&#8217;ve read from Warren, the goal of the website has been to reduce the divorce rate by matching people compatible for a happy long-term marriage.  And to make money doing it.  It isn&#8217;t a &#8220;hook-up&#8221; site.</p>
<p>I have friends who aren&#8217;t religious who have been accepted by the site and given matches.  Atheism, agnosticism, or another designation clearly doesn&#8217;t disqualify anyone from the site, but the site WILL bar people who are married, who have been divorced &#8220;too many&#8221; times, who (according to its questionnaire) don&#8217;t seem to be ready for a long term committment, or who give too many conflicting answers on the questionnaire, indicating they are either being dishonest with themselves, are unstable, or whatever.</p>
<p>As far as atheists being matched up with &#8220;Christians&#8221;, each person sets their own parameters on that site as far as that goes.  If you are an atheist who has indicated you are open to being matched with a &#8220;Christian&#8221;, and if the &#8220;Christian&#8221; has indicated that they were willing to be matched with an &#8220;atheist&#8221;, then you will be matched if otherwise compatible.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojoey</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/16/eharmony-saying-no-to-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-43988</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojoey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried eHarmony as a test. I emphasized Atheism while answering the other questions normally. By the time I closed my profile 48 hours later, I ad over a doze quality matches.
I posted about it here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2007/06/james-dobson-eharmony-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;James Dobson, eharmony and discrimination&lt;/a&gt;. With a follow-up here: &lt;a title=&quot;http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2007/06/eharmony-follow-up.html&quot; href=&quot;http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2007/06/eharmony-follow-up.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eharmony follow-up&lt;/a&gt;.
I think it is the other question you answer which limit your feedback. I could not have been more Atheist when answering the questions. Everyone who responded would have known my position.
I noticed that everyone who matched with me did not think religion was important and was open to dating somebody outside of their own sect. Religion is used to match people or exclude people based on a like-to-like test. Which is a shame because while I might not like dating an evangelical, Catholics are nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried eHarmony as a test. I emphasized Atheism while answering the other questions normally. By the time I closed my profile 48 hours later, I ad over a doze quality matches.<br />
I posted about it here: <a href="http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2007/06/james-dobson-eharmony-and.html" rel="nofollow">James Dobson, eharmony and discrimination</a>. With a follow-up here: <a title="http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2007/06/eharmony-follow-up.html" href="http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2007/06/eharmony-follow-up.html" rel="nofollow">eharmony follow-up</a>.<br />
I think it is the other question you answer which limit your feedback. I could not have been more Atheist when answering the questions. Everyone who responded would have known my position.<br />
I noticed that everyone who matched with me did not think religion was important and was open to dating somebody outside of their own sect. Religion is used to match people or exclude people based on a like-to-like test. Which is a shame because while I might not like dating an evangelical, Catholics are nice.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That site is Chemistry.com, and it&#039;s worked for me.  Though I must warn you, its very slow going since you can&#039;t search for matches.  They send them to you, and then you decide which ones you&#039;re interested in.  

I haven&#039;t found that special someone yet, but it beats Myspace in terms of the quality of people I&#039;ve met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That site is Chemistry.com, and it&#8217;s worked for me.  Though I must warn you, its very slow going since you can&#8217;t search for matches.  They send them to you, and then you decide which ones you&#8217;re interested in.  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t found that special someone yet, but it beats Myspace in terms of the quality of people I&#8217;ve met.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a dating web site now running ads saying &quot;We don&#039;t know why so many people have been regected by eHarmony but .. &quot; (try us) -- possibly cupid.com, but I&#039;m not certain.

I do remember though, seeing that Neil Clark Warren was interviewed by Pat Robertson on the 700 Club some months back. -- I didn&#039;t see the interview but the Fundamentalist Christian thing doesn&#039;t surprise me at all.

I have one friend from work who&#039;s online date did lead to marriage, he happens to be Christian, and also I&#039;m not sure what site he used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a dating web site now running ads saying &#8220;We don&#8217;t know why so many people have been regected by eHarmony but .. &#8221; (try us) &#8212; possibly cupid.com, but I&#8217;m not certain.</p>
<p>I do remember though, seeing that Neil Clark Warren was interviewed by Pat Robertson on the 700 Club some months back. &#8212; I didn&#8217;t see the interview but the Fundamentalist Christian thing doesn&#8217;t surprise me at all.</p>
<p>I have one friend from work who&#8217;s online date did lead to marriage, he happens to be Christian, and also I&#8217;m not sure what site he used.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My marriage license was written in cuneiform on a clay tablet so I&#039;m not up on this stuff, but has anybody tried Science Connection?  I&#039;ve seen it advertised in the classified section of Scientific American for years and wondered about it.  I know not all secular people are heavily into science but many scientists are very secular.  I&#039;ll bet they don&#039;t have any bias against it there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My marriage license was written in cuneiform on a clay tablet so I&#8217;m not up on this stuff, but has anybody tried Science Connection?  I&#8217;ve seen it advertised in the classified section of Scientific American for years and wondered about it.  I know not all secular people are heavily into science but many scientists are very secular.  I&#8217;ll bet they don&#8217;t have any bias against it there.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 03:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried eHarmony way back when and got an error message saying something about me being too unique; that I didn&#039;t fit any of their profiles. I had a hunch it was my atheism, but I figured it was their loss. Hey, there&#039;s always secularity.com. Okay, they don&#039;t have many users, but on any dating website I think that putting atheist on my profile cuts down on messages from people I wouldn&#039;t want to date anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried eHarmony way back when and got an error message saying something about me being too unique; that I didn&#8217;t fit any of their profiles. I had a hunch it was my atheism, but I figured it was their loss. Hey, there&#8217;s always secularity.com. Okay, they don&#8217;t have many users, but on any dating website I think that putting atheist on my profile cuts down on messages from people I wouldn&#8217;t want to date anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m an atheist woman who signed up for a trial on Eharmony, and they kept sending me matches with &quot;Christian&quot; men.  I specifically answered that I am an atheist, don&#039;t attend church services, etc.  Maybe they were trying to tell me something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m an atheist woman who signed up for a trial on Eharmony, and they kept sending me matches with &#8220;Christian&#8221; men.  I specifically answered that I am an atheist, don&#8217;t attend church services, etc.  Maybe they were trying to tell me something.</p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Or we are just too cheap to pay $100 (!) for three months.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup!  That&#039;s me.  Feeding my sons is more important then a relationship that costs me $100 every three months to find on the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Or we are just too cheap to pay $100 (!) for three months.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup!  That&#8217;s me.  Feeding my sons is more important then a relationship that costs me $100 every three months to find on the net.</p>
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