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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple more comments in response to others here:

1) Obama was leading Jack Ryan in the polls even before the scandal, largely due to unusually high support among downstate and suburban Chicago voters. If a black Democrat from Chicago can win over white rural and suburban Illinoians, I think he has a good chance of winning over the rest of the nation as well.

2) However I still don&#039;t think there is any chance of him winning the Deep South States. But frankly, at this point, is there any chance of any Democrat winning down there? Even Al Gore couldn&#039;t win his home state of Tennessee. But Obama can win without the South. I think he has a really good chance of picking up swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.

3) I really like Obama a lot, primarily because he has real-world, first-hand experience serving the urban poor on the south-side of Chicago. He was a community organizer and civil rights attorney down there - which means he doesn&#039;t just talk the talk. He walks the walk. I&#039;d vote for any candidate who really understands and cares about the poor and doesn&#039;t just pay lip service to the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple more comments in response to others here:</p>
<p>1) Obama was leading Jack Ryan in the polls even before the scandal, largely due to unusually high support among downstate and suburban Chicago voters. If a black Democrat from Chicago can win over white rural and suburban Illinoians, I think he has a good chance of winning over the rest of the nation as well.</p>
<p>2) However I still don&#8217;t think there is any chance of him winning the Deep South States. But frankly, at this point, is there any chance of any Democrat winning down there? Even Al Gore couldn&#8217;t win his home state of Tennessee. But Obama can win without the South. I think he has a really good chance of picking up swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.</p>
<p>3) I really like Obama a lot, primarily because he has real-world, first-hand experience serving the urban poor on the south-side of Chicago. He was a community organizer and civil rights attorney down there &#8211; which means he doesn&#8217;t just talk the talk. He walks the walk. I&#8217;d vote for any candidate who really understands and cares about the poor and doesn&#8217;t just pay lip service to the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this Hemant. I think atheists like PZ really play into the religious stereotypes and fears about atheists - that you guys are really anti-religious and out to &quot;get us&quot;. Attitudes like PZ&#039;s undermine the kind of friendly atheism that you&#039;re promoting here and keep us from being able to respect each other and work together in the way that Obama encourages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Hemant. I think atheists like PZ really play into the religious stereotypes and fears about atheists &#8211; that you guys are really anti-religious and out to &#8220;get us&#8221;. Attitudes like PZ&#8217;s undermine the kind of friendly atheism that you&#8217;re promoting here and keep us from being able to respect each other and work together in the way that Obama encourages.</p>
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		<title>By: Avid Reader</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>Avid Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supporting a candidate because you know - despite their pronouncements - that in their heart of hearts they&#039;re on your side is misguided. Up to now, the public has demanded either business, military, state ability (governor) or a track record of federal service.  Carter, Bush, Clinton, JFK all qualified in one or more of these categories.  Besides Edwards, Obama is the first with none and these not counting his stint as a state senator (lol).  Obama supporters would probably be infuriated if the GOP nominated a media celebutant. Oh he has LOTS of experience (lol) and so what if it&#039;s nothing but mushy generalities? Until we learn more it&#039;s hype over substance. 

As for the unpopularity of atheists today (mentioned in this forum) much of it is our own fault. Lest we forget, that great atheist, Robert Ingersoll, placed James Blaine&#039;s name into nomination at the 1876 GOP convention. He was unashamedly pro-American, pro-businessa and pro-expansionist of liberty. He was fervent in his disbelief yet was never rude or arrogant or hateful. Nor did he try to &quot;prove&quot; his case with science but instead used humor and reason. We could learn from his example today.    

Avid Reader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supporting a candidate because you know &#8211; despite their pronouncements &#8211; that in their heart of hearts they&#8217;re on your side is misguided. Up to now, the public has demanded either business, military, state ability (governor) or a track record of federal service.  Carter, Bush, Clinton, JFK all qualified in one or more of these categories.  Besides Edwards, Obama is the first with none and these not counting his stint as a state senator (lol).  Obama supporters would probably be infuriated if the GOP nominated a media celebutant. Oh he has LOTS of experience (lol) and so what if it&#8217;s nothing but mushy generalities? Until we learn more it&#8217;s hype over substance. </p>
<p>As for the unpopularity of atheists today (mentioned in this forum) much of it is our own fault. Lest we forget, that great atheist, Robert Ingersoll, placed James Blaine&#8217;s name into nomination at the 1876 GOP convention. He was unashamedly pro-American, pro-businessa and pro-expansionist of liberty. He was fervent in his disbelief yet was never rude or arrogant or hateful. Nor did he try to &#8220;prove&#8221; his case with science but instead used humor and reason. We could learn from his example today.    </p>
<p>Avid Reader</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>Aimee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that it matters, but he is only half black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that it matters, but he is only half black.</p>
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		<title>By: BqTM</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4362</link>
		<dc:creator>BqTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of things: First off, it is necessary today for a serious candidate to embrace Christianity in one way or another. They are unelectable otherwise considering the vast number of believers in our society. As long as Obama doesn&#039;t use his religiousity as a guideline for policy, I am ok. 

Second, being black is one of the only things keeping his candidancy alive. While racism, in its most benign way, is still alive, there are enough conservatives and liberals that want to feel good about not being racist, thus Obama is the perfect candidate. Without his heritage and his skin color, this guy would be about half as charismatic. 

I like Obama as a candidate simply because of his charisma and his supposed honesty. I like about half of his politics considering he is aligned with John Kerry about 97% of the time (see voting records). Good candidate, glad he&#039;s running, American WOULD elect him, and probably will unless Hillary can figure out a new strategy. 

Also, saying that Hillary Clinton is MORE qualified than Barack Obama is an inane argument. She has LESS public service experience, LESS experience running for office, but MORE association with a former president. Just because Barack holds most of his experience in the State senate for Illinois doesn&#039;t make him unqualified, just as it didn&#039;t for Abraham Lincoln who had about the same amount of experience in the state house. 

bequeeththemasses@blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of things: First off, it is necessary today for a serious candidate to embrace Christianity in one way or another. They are unelectable otherwise considering the vast number of believers in our society. As long as Obama doesn&#8217;t use his religiousity as a guideline for policy, I am ok. </p>
<p>Second, being black is one of the only things keeping his candidancy alive. While racism, in its most benign way, is still alive, there are enough conservatives and liberals that want to feel good about not being racist, thus Obama is the perfect candidate. Without his heritage and his skin color, this guy would be about half as charismatic. </p>
<p>I like Obama as a candidate simply because of his charisma and his supposed honesty. I like about half of his politics considering he is aligned with John Kerry about 97% of the time (see voting records). Good candidate, glad he&#8217;s running, American WOULD elect him, and probably will unless Hillary can figure out a new strategy. </p>
<p>Also, saying that Hillary Clinton is MORE qualified than Barack Obama is an inane argument. She has LESS public service experience, LESS experience running for office, but MORE association with a former president. Just because Barack holds most of his experience in the State senate for Illinois doesn&#8217;t make him unqualified, just as it didn&#8217;t for Abraham Lincoln who had about the same amount of experience in the state house. </p>
<p><a href="mailto:bequeeththemasses@blogspot.com">bequeeththemasses@blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vermont Confidential &#187; Obama - an atheist in Democrat&#8217;s robe</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4269</link>
		<dc:creator>Vermont Confidential &#187; Obama - an atheist in Democrat&#8217;s robe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 01:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coming across a post on the Labour Humanist blog, I tracked back to The Friendly Atheist ( blogger) and PZ Myers blog  (Pharyngula) and have to put in a couples of pennies worth here from the hills of Vermont.  I took a few hours and thoroughly enjoyed reading “Audacity of Hope” – at my wife’s urging.  She’s an Obama fan from the last DNC.  AS it turns out, I had also just recently entertained myself thoroughly reading Harris “The End of Faith” and Dawkins – The God Delusion so I had a particular sensitivity to the issue - as it were. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coming across a post on the Labour Humanist blog, I tracked back to The Friendly Atheist ( blogger) and PZ Myers blog  (Pharyngula) and have to put in a couples of pennies worth here from the hills of Vermont.  I took a few hours and thoroughly enjoyed reading “Audacity of Hope” – at my wife’s urging.  She’s an Obama fan from the last DNC.  AS it turns out, I had also just recently entertained myself thoroughly reading Harris “The End of Faith” and Dawkins – The God Delusion so I had a particular sensitivity to the issue &#8211; as it were. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nes</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4102</link>
		<dc:creator>Nes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that I had previously heard about Obama (and this was quite a while ago, around the &#039;04 election maybe) was something about him saying that the Democrats need to embrace religion or something along those lines, which really turned me off. But after seeing those quotes I&#039;ll definitely check him out. Thanks for that, Hemant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that I had previously heard about Obama (and this was quite a while ago, around the &#8216;04 election maybe) was something about him saying that the Democrats need to embrace religion or something along those lines, which really turned me off. But after seeing those quotes I&#8217;ll definitely check him out. Thanks for that, Hemant.</p>
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		<title>By: txatheist</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4061</link>
		<dc:creator>txatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logos,
I think Obama being black, a Democrat and from the north will definitely ruin his chances in states like Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi so he will have to win OH, PA and other major swing states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logos,<br />
I think Obama being black, a Democrat and from the north will definitely ruin his chances in states like Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi so he will have to win OH, PA and other major swing states.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4028</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve never seen him take a stand on anything except to stand with Joe Lieberman.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


He&#039;s taken a strong stand against the war in Iraq from the very beginning - something no other Democrat currently in the race can say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve never seen him take a stand on anything except to stand with Joe Lieberman.</p></blockquote>
<p>He&#8217;s taken a strong stand against the war in Iraq from the very beginning &#8211; something no other Democrat currently in the race can say.</p>
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		<title>By: Logos</title>
		<link>http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/17/obamas-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-4026</link>
		<dc:creator>Logos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost hate to bring this up, but America is still a very racist country. Do you think Obama&#039;s race will keep him from getting elected? I would hope not , but I fear that it may.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost hate to bring this up, but America is still a very racist country. Do you think Obama&#8217;s race will keep him from getting elected? I would hope not , but I fear that it may.</p>
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