Comments on: Andrew Marin

By: txatheist

txatheist — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:04:18 +0000

I though you were looking for a Christian response since the original post was asking for questions of Mr. Marin. No worries, mate.

I was looking for a Christian response from a homosexual Christian.

By: Mike O

Mike O — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 02:25:20 +0000

Oh, OK. When I read

I don’t believe in sin as it is a religious concept. However, as an atheist asking a Christian I want to know how you view Romans 1:26? How do you reconcile that religious text with your sexual orientation?

I though you were looking for a Christian response since the original post was asking for questions of Mr. Marin. No worries, mate.

By: txatheist

txatheist — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:42:20 +0000

Mike O, I don’t want scripture to support your view. I was asking a homosexual how he sees Romans 1:26. I’m aware of how most of the Christian community views homosexuality.

By: Logos

Logos — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:52:50 +0000

See, we can see eye to eye!

By: Mike O

Mike O — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:39:34 +0000

Well you see Mr.Marin was getting money from gay and lesbian groups, groups that I may have decided to give my money to. So yes it does matter if he thinks homosexuality is a sin, because that is not the kind of person I want my money going to.

That makes sense.

By: Logos

Logos — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:54:16 +0000

Well you see Mr.Marin was getting money from gay and lesbian groups, groups that I may have decided to give my money to. So yes it does matter if he thinks homosexuality is a sin, because that is not the kind of person I want my money going to.evangelicals are famous for dodging questions and hiding their true intentions. Like Ted Haggard telling his followers “not to act weird when the media is around” or William A. Dembski hesitating to mention that he is a young earther. I don’t care what evangelicals believe and would never make any move to change their minds . However if they are trying to get money or support from me then that is a different story. The catholic church launched a ministry along the same lines as Mr.Marin’s group. You can read about it herehttp://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/10/19/2 . They are it least honest about what they believe, a virtue that evangelicals do not seem to share. When i order a mug of beer I have a right to expect beer and not mule piss (which is what Mr.Marin is selling)

By: Mike O

Mike O — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:35:37 +0000

txatheist,

Do you mind if I take a shot at that? It might not be right away because i have to go to work, but I’ve actually done some study on that. Not as it pertains to homosexuality specifically, but the general concept given in Romans 1:18 thru 2:4. It will be a lot of scripture if that’s alright.

By: Mike O

Mike O — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:40:17 +0000

I know this wasn’t addressed to me, but to Logos, I would ask, “And so what if he does?” What does that have to do with anything? If Marin thinks it’s a sin, so what. I do. But that doesn’t mean I can’t be friends with homosexuals. That doesn’t mean we can’t welcome each other into our homes and just go on with things. Complete agreement is overrated, and even divisive. I mean, sure, Christianity teaches (at least the Christianity I ascribe to) that homosexuality is a sin. But you don’t believe that, so let’s shake hands and move one, can’t we? We don’t agree. Or do demand total agreement to associate with us? Isn’t that the rap the Christians get? That we won’t listen to anyone and we try to make everyone agree with us?

Think of it this way … WE don’t get to decide what is a sin and what isn’t. God (if there is one … I know this is an atheist site) does. If there is no God, there is no “sin.” But if there is a God, then maybe there is such a thing as sin. And that’s what I believe. God defines what is and isn’t sin, we don’t. I believe it’s a sin. You don’t. OK. Next question?

Asking Mr. Marin whther or not he thinks homosexuality is a sin is really nothing more than asking him what he thinks God thinks. A God maybe you don’t even believe in (I don’t know you.) So with that in mind, the question serves no purpose other than to be divisive. If it’s a sin, it doesn’t matter what you or Mr. Marin think. It either is or isn’t, and apparently you disagree on what you think the answer is.

Again, sometimes total agreement is overrated.

By: txatheist

txatheist — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:59:36 +0000

I don’t believe in sin as it is a religious concept. However, as an atheist asking a Christian I want to know how you view Romans 1:26? How do you reconcile that religious text with your sexual orientation? Thanks, TXatheist